Data keeps rolling in.. One more shoe drop...many many more to come unfortunately. Harvard study... https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract

Canisdirus

One more shoe drop...many many more to come unfortunately.

Harvard study... https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070

So far... they have found...

1.) For every one C***D hospitalization prevented in previously uninfected young adults...
“18 to 98 actual serious a*****e e***ts” have been caused.

2.) C****-** v*****e mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to young healthy adults—between 18 and 98 serious a*****e e***ts requiring hospitalisation and 1373 to 3234 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public health benefit.

Just the beginning folks...this was all rushed to market...and the butchers bill for that has not been presented fully...yet.

traderjohn Loc: New York City

Canisdirus wrote:

One more shoe drop...many many more to come unfort... (show quote)

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You have to love the use and the exaggeration of words to support or not their various beliefs. "serious a*****e e***ts" and "the butcher's bill". How many billions of people throughout the world have been v******ted? You believe what you are told based on prejudice and in some cases a partisan political belief. Do you really think a politician is being honest?

ELNikkor

None of the hundreds of people of all ages and all walks of life I know who got the v*****e have had any adverse affects, including my entire family and me. My family and I have also had the c****-** illness, either before or after the v*****e, and no continuing effects.

Canisdirus

traderjohn wrote:

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You have to love the use and the exaggeration of words to support or not their various beliefs. "serious a*****e e***ts" and "the butcher's bill". How many billions of people throughout the world have been v******ted? You believe what you are told based on prejudice and in some cases a partisan political belief. Do you really think a politician is being honest?

I'm sorry if my vocabulary bothers you...anything else...of substance?

Not sure of your position...you stated...' You believe what you are told based on prejudice and in some cases a partisan political belief.'.

That's my entire point. Though bias is the more correct term...back to vocabulary again.

We all have bias...all of us...and we use it all the time.

Exactly why when big issues come up...step back...listen to the words...but follow the money and the action.
If the words betray the other two...there is a problem.

That happened exactly with C***d.

Lest we forget...this was an issue that was weaponized and tied to e******ns globally.

You better believe there was tons of misinformation going around, and anyone who questioned the narrative was destroyed.

Indications of a problem...if one can put aside the bias and think objectively.

Get used to this sort of data coming out...

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Canisdirus wrote:

I'm sorry if my vocabulary bothers you...anything else...of substance?

False representation: not from Harvard.

Not peer reviewed.

Very nebulous data: In the range of 22,000 to 30,000 (an unsubstantiated/tested estimate) 1.7 to 3 cases of myocarditis in males and between 1,373 to 3,234 cases of reactogenicity. These are the listed serious adverse effects. "Reactogenicity refers to a subset of reactions that occur soon after v******tion." I looked it up. It means you may have a sore arm at the v******tion site and feel s**tty for a day or two.

This is from a group of college students/teachers who don't care who else ends up on a ventilator and possibly dies as long as they don't have to feel s**tty for a day or two.

Until it's peer reviewed it's rubbish.

Canisdirus

Ysarex wrote:

False representation: not from Harvard. br br Not... (show quote)

It's peer reviewed...it simply has not gone into print...the entire study is there to peruse.

Yes, I'm sure the credentials are lacking... researchers from Harvard....John Hopkins...what do they know.

Be serious.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Canisdirus wrote:

It's peer reviewed...it simply has not gone into print...the entire study is there to peruse.

Yes, I'm sure the credentials are lacking... researchers from Harvard....John Hopkins...what do they know.

Be serious.

All I seriously need to know: You lied. You said, "Harvard study..."

I assume you lied because you knew it was rubbish.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Ysarex wrote:

Not peer reviewed.

Very nebulous data ...

Until it's peer reviewed it's rubbish.

It may be rubbish whether it's peer reviewed or not. For that matter, even without peer review, it might be accurate. It depends on the peers and who is leading the review.

You may recall over the past two years how F***i and his peers hijacked the question of the origin of C***d ** to press a false claim that it did not come from the W***n lab.

It's certainly the case that children under the age of 18 including preschoolers have little to gain from the v*****es.

The groups that benefit most from the v*****es are the elderly and the immunoc*********d along with those with preexisting conditions like diabetes and obesity.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Canisdirus wrote:

It's peer reviewed...it simply has not gone into print...the entire study is there to peruse.

Yes, I'm sure the credentials are lacking...

Yes -- glaringly so in fact.

Canisdirus wrote:

researchers from Harvard....John Hopkins...what do they know.

And is this not you lying again or at least misrepresentation. There may be a couple "researchers" in the group of authors (none I can see who are virologists) but the term "researchers" does not apply to that author list.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

selmslie wrote:

It's certainly the case that children under the age of 18 including preschoolers have little to gain from the v*****es.

V*****es are a public health measure as well as a personal health measure. Public health is a legitimate goal that all members of a community should be expected to participate in.

ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

My wife & I "somehow" continued to live & prosper after receiving our 4 C***d Shots!!

PS: Consider for a moment the amount of additional "Scientific Research" that could be accomplished with ---

A Thousand Chimps in front of a Thousand Terminals for a Thousand Years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Ysarex wrote:

V*****es are a public health measure as well as a personal health measure. Public health is a legitimate goal that all members of a community should be expected to participate in.

Are you getting the Monkey Pox v*****e? Cholera v*****e? Common sense inoculation?

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

selmslie wrote:

Are you getting the Monkey Pox v*****e? Cholera v*****e? Common sense inoculation?

Common sense would lead even the feeble minded to conclude that in the US the public health threat from C****-** is substantially more serious than Monkey Pox or Cholera (extremely infectious airborne versus not airborne). I and my children are appropriately v******ted in compliance with our community's public health recommendations.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Ysarex wrote:

Common sense would lead even the feeble minded to conclude that in the US the public health threat from C****-** is substantially more serious than Monkey Pox or Cholera (extremely infectious airborne versus not airborne). I and my children are appropriately v******ted in compliance with our community's public health recommendations.

According to Becker's Hospital Review, "As of 6 a.m. EDT Sep. 07, a total of 224,367,691 Americans had been fully v******ted, or 67.6 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data."

That means that 1/3 of the population is not fully v******ted. Many of them are not v******ted at all.

In spite of this, Worldmeter shows that things are pretty much under control.

That's currently less than 2.8 million infected.

Even if you get infected with C***d there is less than 1 chance in 100,000 that you are going to died from it (or with it from something else).

We are gradually dropping the v*****e mandates for v******tions. Even the Navy quietly rolled back punishments for SEALs seeking religious exemptions to the C***D v*****e.

If that trend continues I will make my own decisions about continuing to boost.

A recommendation is not the same as a mandate. Sometime you need to use your own judgement. Some communities are better at this than others.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

selmslie wrote:

According to url=https://www.beckershospitalrevie... (show quote)

I'm aware of the stats which don't bear on the fact that the OP falsely presented what looks like some dubious claims.