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Sep 5, 2022 12:25:36   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Simple fix. Canon open up your lens mount and see your camera body sales increase as more folks can afford to buy into your system.

It works great for Sony with its E-mount, the most widely produced and used mirrorless lens mount in the world with nearly 200 E-mount lenses on the market from Sony and numerous third-party makers and more being introduced every week. Consequently Sony is the largest selling mirrorless camera brand in the world. Just a fact.

And now Nikon has opened up its Z-mount to third-party lens makers.

Panasonic and Olympus micro 4/3rds cameras share some lens mounts and Third-party lens makers make many lenses for both these brands.

And Full frame mirrorless Panasonic, Leica and Sigma share the L-mount lenses.

Canon has a different business model and philosophy. It is their right to do so, but a shame for many Canon owners that would like some more options.

Cheers and best to you.
Simple fix. Canon open up your lens mount and see... (show quote)


Apparently Canon doesn't agree with you either. Best of luck.

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Sep 5, 2022 13:06:54   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
imagemeister wrote:
There are several RF lenses that have no EF equal ie 24-240 and 800 f11 as a couple ...


That is true but I don't need it is the point, already own a 300 f/2.8 II with both extenders that I am sure is better than the 800 f/11 and I don't mind carrying two lenses if I anticipate needing more reach I would usually have either the 70-200 or the 100-400 in the bag with the 24-105 on the camera. If I am just shooting waterfalls and trails it would be the 14-24 and the 24-105.

I guess that it depends on the photography you do, the 24-240 would be a great all around lens for many but I don't see it as an advantage for me, I mostly shoot birds and landscape. All except a couple of my lenses are L or Art and to replace them with their RF counter parts would be a huge expense and I just don't see much return for that additional expense. So far there is only one RF lens that I have my eye on and that would be the 14-35 f/4 because it does have some distinct advantages over my Sigma 14-24/2.8.

The earlier point I was making is that there is no need to rush out and purchase a bunch of RF glass when the adapters work just fine, if you are happy with the glass you already own then you don't have to buy the newer glass.

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Sep 5, 2022 13:11:42   #
kbk
 
Nikon d500 has an articulating screen. Time to leave canon.

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Sep 5, 2022 13:17:44   #
wishaw
 
R alarm. I believe Hoya supplied canon lenses to canon at one time.

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Sep 5, 2022 13:34:27   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
DoneFlyin wrote:
Well said!
I absolutely agree and have experienced the anger and humiliation of Chinese counterfeit goods produced with our own property - our own tooling - and packaged in another international company’s packaging for sale in select areas of Asia. (They were not aware it was occurring.) We had made the multi-millions in investments that we were working to recover. Those thieves were simply printing money.

Recovery of product development investment can take many forms. A company chooses the form they employ. And it’s not unusual that a market segment becomes disillusioned and parts ways with the company’s products if they don’t care for the impact of such a decision. Ultimately, the market will pick the winners and losers - and whether that management decision was the right one. You’re in the process of doing that right now. Ain’t Capitalism Grand!
Well said! br I absolutely agree and have experie... (show quote)


👍👍 exactly.

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Sep 5, 2022 13:37:53   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
rmalarz wrote:
I've never understood the desire to put third-party glass on a top-of-the-line camera. I believe the Nikon D850 has an articulating screen.
--Bob


Because third party glass has come into the 21st century and it just as good as the as the factory glass. Let go just let go.

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Sep 5, 2022 13:39:01   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Let's say you spend many, many millions of dollars developing and designing a new camera mount and system and some other company came along and basically copied your design and started marketing products to your customers, the same products your company needs to sell to make up for the cost of designing and producing the new products. Would you do what you could to stop stop them, at least for a while? If Canon can't contain the knock off market at least until they have recouped their investment in the new EOS R system, they will be forced to increase prices. Canon isn't trying to stop Viltrox from manufacturing adapters, they are trying to stop them from making lenses that are reverse engineered. Canon spends the money developing and designing their RF series lenses and companies like Viltrox just steal the design and market their own products. I have nothing against Viltrox, I own several Viltrox adapters, including two EF to RF adapters. I understand why Canon is doing what they are. In protest, I will shoot my D850 today, along with my R7 and it's Viltrox adapted EF lens.
Let's say you spend many, many millions of dollars... (show quote)

Third party glass is not going away

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Sep 5, 2022 13:46:36   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
This is just another reason to be an evil genius and enter the dark world of Olympus/Panasonic m43. As a cult, we have secret meetings (via zoom) and may even have sacrifices of Canon and Nikon cameras to pay respect to the Mighty Eyeso, our god. The Goddess vixen, Shutterisa sits with him and bore his son, Aperturus. This, of course, all happened on Mt. Olympus.

Alas, high Eyeso is our downfall in the m43 land.


LOVE IT!

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Sep 5, 2022 13:51:55   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
kbk wrote:
Nikon d500 has an articulating screen. Time to leave canon.


Nope, the D500 has a flip screen.

The Zfc has an articulating screen. Big difference.

Check the specs if you don't have the camera in hand.

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Sep 5, 2022 14:19:12   #
stevemdr
 
In regards to Canon, I've done the same thing. I'm selling off my Canon R7 with the 18-150mm lens because the existing RF lenses are either cheaply made or too expensive. There's nothing in the middle. I'm moving to the Fujifilm X S10, which has a huge supply of first-class mid-priced, high-quality lenses and accommodating X-mount lenses from companies such as Sigma. If you haven't made the move to APS-C mounts, you should consider it.

Look at the Fujifilm X-4. Because of the recently issued HS-2, you can buy them new or used in pristine condition for as little as $1200. It has a fully articulating LCD. My new S10 has the same innards but the screen is partially articulated and it lacks the weatherproofing of its big brother. However, it is smaller and lighter, and mine was used, but in great condition, for $860.

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Sep 5, 2022 14:24:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I am not saying Canon is gouging but if they do I wouldn't care. Let the market fix them. But not so much on the medicine. People who buy medicine not so much because they want them. People wouldn't want free medicine if they are not sick.


It seems to me like society is way over medicated by about 90%.

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Sep 5, 2022 14:25:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
wishaw wrote:
R alarm. I believe Hoya supplied canon lenses to canon at one time.


Nikon fanboy rumor.

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Sep 5, 2022 14:34:51   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
stevemdr wrote:
In regards to Canon, I've done the same thing. I'm selling off my Canon R7 with the 18-150mm lens because the existing RF lenses are either cheaply made or too expensive. There's nothing in the middle. I'm moving to the Fujifilm X S10, which has a huge supply of first-class mid-priced, high-quality lenses and accommodating X-mount lenses from companies such as Sigma. If you haven't made the move to APS-C mounts, you should consider it.

Look at the Fujifilm X-4. Because of the recently issued HS-2, you can buy them new or used in pristine condition for as little as $1200. It has a fully articulating LCD. My new S10 has the same innards but the screen is partially articulated and it lacks the weatherproofing of its big brother. However, it is smaller and lighter, and mine was used, but in great condition, for $860.
In regards to Canon, I've done the same thing. I'm... (show quote)


Right answer

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Sep 5, 2022 14:36:08   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
ricardo00 wrote:
I too am a Nikon user but have bought a couple of third party lenses since Nikon did not have anything comparable. And now they don't work on my Z9. I knew that was a risk going in but still would have made the decision to buy them and, if I need to, can use them on my Nikon DSLR which I still have (and use as a backup camera anyway). Considering how few Nikon (and Canon) lenses have been made for their mirrorless cameras, it works out if third party lenses are available for these other products.
I too am a Nikon user but have bought a couple of ... (show quote)


With about 60 F Mount lenses (4-2,000mm) I have no interest in making them semi obsolete - but I would buy a mirrorless Nikon with an F mount the day it came out - if Nikon actually would like to sell a bunch of cameras they should bring out a mirrorless F mount

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Sep 5, 2022 14:44:34   #
les spencer
 
Sure glad I still have my Instamatic.....lol

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