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Aug 21, 2022 11:21:18   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
dmagett wrote:
I have a problem with dates. I started in the early 2000's using a Cannon digital with their ZooBrowser it imported photos in the following format (yyyy_mo_dd). I later switch to Nikon cameras using View NX and NX-i (Nikon Transfer) with same format. I still use that format to organize photos. Current problem with other brand cameras is if I shoot jpeg, it still works...but not for raw. Lightroom, Bridge and other software will not let me import in that format. After so many years, I am not interested in changing my organizational format.
I have a problem with dates. I started in the earl... (show quote)


Not clear on the details. Are you still using the Canon ZooBrowser (I am not familiar with that software) to import your photos from 'other brand' cameras? Or are you importing and changing the file name to include your desired format?

As long as LR will recognize a raw file, it shouldn't matter what the filename is as long as it has the correct extension. Not sure what 'other software' you are referring to.

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Aug 21, 2022 11:32:05   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Not clear on the details. Are you still using the Canon ZooBrowser (I am not familiar with that software) to import your photos from 'other brand' cameras? Or are you importing and changing the file name to include your desired format?

As long as LR will recognize a raw file, it shouldn't matter what the filename is as long as it has the correct extension. Not sure what 'other software' you are referring to.


(Thanks D for stepping in with this comment and question....I wasn't sure how to respond since I shoot mostly jpeg and never had a date format problem with LR 6.14 (classic) for the few RAW files I've shot).

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Aug 21, 2022 11:37:47   #
dmagett Loc: Albuquerque NM/Sedona AZ
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Not clear on the details. Are you still using the Canon ZooBrowser (I am not familiar with that software) to import your photos from 'other brand' cameras? Or are you importing and changing the file name to include your desired format?

As long as LR will recognize a raw file, it shouldn't matter what the filename is as long as it has the correct extension. Not sure what 'other software' you are referring to.


Sorry. It was ZoomBrowser and I no longer use it. I currently use Nikon Transfer because it allows the date with underscores. When I import RAW, I use Bridge and then convert the folder name to underscores..a real pain!

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Aug 21, 2022 11:39:33   #
photoman43
 
In my Nikon DLRs and Z9 I use YYYYMMDD format.

When I download the images to my laptop or desktop, both window pcs, I use Downloader Pro. It allows me to create a file folder name of my choice and file names of my choice.

My File folder name is date and "job code" specific: 20220821_Backyard Birds as an example. The fie name for images that appear in that folder are 220821_Backbard birds_01.NEF. The file number is changed for each image downloaded.

You enter the Job Code in Preferences each time you use the program. Other options exist.

I believe Nikon Transfer in NX Studio will do the same thing. And it is free.

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Aug 21, 2022 11:43:07   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
photoman43 wrote:
In my Nikon DLRs and Z9 I use YYYYMMDD format.

When I download the images to my laptop or desktop, both window pcs, I use Downloader Pro. It allows me to create a file folder name of my choice and file names of my choice.

My File folder name is date and "job code" specific: 20220821_Backyard Birds as an example. The fie name for images that appear in that folder are 220821_Backbard birds_01.NEF. The file number is changed for each image downloaded.

You enter the Job Code in Preferences each time you use the program. Other options exist.

I believe Nikon Transfer in NX Studio will do the same thing. And it is free.
In my Nikon DLRs and Z9 I use YYYYMMDD format. br... (show quote)


Sounds like you're on the right track

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Aug 21, 2022 11:44:35   #
dmagett Loc: Albuquerque NM/Sedona AZ
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Not clear on the details. Are you still using the Canon ZooBrowser (I am not familiar with that software) to import your photos from 'other brand' cameras? Or are you importing and changing the file name to include your desired format?

As long as LR will recognize a raw file, it shouldn't matter what the filename is as long as it has the correct extension. Not sure what 'other software' you are referring to.


I use several cameras (Sony A6400, Canon G15, Lumix ZS100, and Leica TYP 114). I have always used the
yyyy_mo_dd format for folders and do not wish to change. I've looked for other software that will import in that format but haven't found any. It seems that the yyy-mo-dd is preferred, but I do not wish to change my may years of imports.

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Aug 21, 2022 11:52:38   #
dmagett Loc: Albuquerque NM/Sedona AZ
 
photoman43 wrote:
In my Nikon DLRs and Z9 I use YYYYMMDD format.

When I download the images to my laptop or desktop, both window pcs, I use Downloader Pro. It allows me to create a file folder name of my choice and file names of my choice.

My File folder name is date and "job code" specific: 20220821_Backyard Birds as an example. The fie name for images that appear in that folder are 220821_Backbard birds_01.NEF. The file number is changed for each image downloaded.

You enter the Job Code in Preferences each time you use the program. Other options exist.

I believe Nikon Transfer in NX Studio will do the same thing. And it is free.
In my Nikon DLRs and Z9 I use YYYYMMDD format. br... (show quote)


Thanks, Nikon Transfer works ,but will only import Nikon RAW images, not others

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Aug 21, 2022 13:12:02   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I think YY/MM/DD makes the most sense. It sorts alphabetically and chronologically the same...


That is what I use for exactly that reason.

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Aug 21, 2022 13:23:25   #
bluezzzzz Loc: Stamping Ground, KY
 
A couple of things have intrigued me from my short time in the Army: Hospital corners when making a bed, and the Army way of writing dates.

Hospital corners have gone by the wayside but the date thing remains: Today is 21AUG2022. No ambiguity between the day and the month if they are numerically close to each other.

My file names are pretty long as I use both YYYYMMDD to allow chronological sorting of a file set and the Army way for my personal ease of recognition, separated by a three letter code.

Marshall

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Aug 21, 2022 15:00:57   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
bluezzzzz wrote:
... Today is 21AUG2022. No ambiguity between the day and the month if they are numerically close to each other...


True, but putting the day first has always bothered me (since High School). It's completely backwards.

That format was invented before people thought about sorting.

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Aug 21, 2022 21:24:24   #
russraman Loc: New York City
 
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds!

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Aug 21, 2022 21:48:57   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
I doubt it matters. How it is stored and how it is displayed is two different things. Regards of how you want to display the date, in the file system it is stored as a number:
Computer / Camera - date storage the same. Pop SDCARD in your computer. In explorer, the dates (Four of them actually) will be display as you have date format setup in your computer's date format settings.

Rather than not trying to give details myself, I found this in an internet search:

What format do computers use to store the date/time internally?
Internally, they count seconds from a certain date (the “zero second” is on 00:00:00 of 1 January 1970) and convert the number when appropriate (i.e. to display it to a human user). It is stored as a signed integer. Right now as I’m writing, it’s 1576509519 o’clock.

In older 32bit systems there are enough seconds for a total of 136 years (half before 1970 and half after), but the signed integer will overflow in 2038 (that might cause problems if there still are old 32bit systems running).

In newer 64bit systems, the problem is solved (we have several times the age of the universe before we run out of time!)

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Aug 22, 2022 09:49:51   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
[quote=smussler]I doubt it matters. How it is stored and how it is displayed is two different things. Regards of how you want to display the date, in the file system it is stored as a number:
Computer / Camera - date storage the same. Pop SDCARD in your computer. In explorer, the dates (Four of them actually) will be display as you have date format setup in your computer's date format settings.

Rather than not trying to give details myself, I found this in an internet search:

What format do computers use to store the date/time internally?
Internally, they count seconds from a certain date (the “zero second” is on 00:00:00 of 1 January 1970) and convert the number when appropriate (i.e. to display it to a human user). It is stored as a signed integer. Right now as I’m writing, it’s 1576509519 o’clock.




.........Nice to know the evolving capabilities of computers. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia on the definition and history of ISO 8601...(the standard that humans can read,write and use in photography). The link will take you to the full article:

"ISO 8601 is an international standard covering the worldwide exchange and communication of date and time-related data. It is maintained by the Geneva-based International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and was first published in 1988, with updates in 1991, 2000, 2004, and 2019. The standard provides a well-defined, unambiguous method of representing calendar dates and times in worldwide communications, especially to avoid misinterpreting numeric dates and times when such data is transferred between countries with different conventions for writing numeric dates and times….."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601


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Aug 22, 2022 10:20:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Yes, I know what you mean. : )

Another consideration when using day or month as the first entry - aside from what the camera does. The computer sorts by the first character, so October (10) would be listed before April (4). I always use two digits - 04 for April, for example.

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Aug 22, 2022 10:56:07   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
[quote=RonDavis]
smussler wrote:
I doubt it matters. How it is stored and how it is displayed is two different things. Regards of how you want to display the date, in the file system it is stored as a number:
Computer / Camera - date storage the same. Pop SDCARD in your computer. In explorer, the dates (Four of them actually) will be display as you have date format setup in your computer's date format settings.

Rather than not trying to give details myself, I found this in an internet search:

What format do computers use to store the date/time internally?
Internally, they count seconds from a certain date (the “zero second” is on 00:00:00 of 1 January 1970) and convert the number when appropriate (i.e. to display it to a human user). It is stored as a signed integer. Right now as I’m writing, it’s 1576509519 o’clock.




.........Nice to know the evolving capabilities of computers. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia on the definition and history of ISO 8601...(the standard that humans can read,write and use in photography). The link will take you to the full article:

"ISO 8601 is an international standard covering the worldwide exchange and communication of date and time-related data. It is maintained by the Geneva-based International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and was first published in 1988, with updates in 1991, 2000, 2004, and 2019. The standard provides a well-defined, unambiguous method of representing calendar dates and times in worldwide communications, especially to avoid misinterpreting numeric dates and times when such data is transferred between countries with different conventions for writing numeric dates and times….."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

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