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Jul 25, 2022 20:03:39   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yes you certainly can *set* a single white balance. It just won't be accurate for all sources present, and might not be accurate for the scene at the point of sampling. Some people resort to layers and masks to white balance different parts of a scene differently. ...

You can't set more than one at a time unless you divide the image up with masks and apply a different WB to each set.

But who would do that with a real scene like the aircraft carrier? It's a waste of time.

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Jul 25, 2022 20:04:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
selmslie wrote:
You don't want to talk about that because you can't provide a solution for either raw or JPEG.

But the reality is that, when it really matters, WB can be (and is) controlled by the use of controlled light sources - preferably with a single temperature and tint quality. That's how it's done in the studio for commercial photography - catalogs and advertising. It's much more difficult when you can't control the light sources as in real estate photography.

But when you can't control the color of the light sources, neither raw nor JPEG is a lot of help. If you were a sentient photographer you would not argue about that.
You don't want to talk about that because you can'... (show quote)


For real estate that matters (half million $ and up in most places), some photographers will carry cases of Daylight photo quality LED bulbs for lamps and floodlight fixtures, and flash units with CC filters, and sheets of ND for the windows...

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Jul 25, 2022 20:06:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
selmslie wrote:
You can't set more than one at a time unless you divide the image up with masks and apply a different WB to each set.

But who would do that with a real scene like the aircraft carrier? It's a waste of time.


I'd simply use an ExpoDisc pointed towards the sun and sky...

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Jul 25, 2022 20:08:35   #
JacksonHD Loc: NorCal
 
imagemeister wrote:
I shoot JPEG only - as does Ken Rockwell. ... .


That's all I need to hear. I think I'll spend my time taking photos, improving my technique, composition, lighting, positioning, etc.



Lots more fun than sitting at a computer....

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Jul 25, 2022 20:12:22   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
selmslie wrote:
Actually the topic is about raw vs JPEG which has pretty much been settled.

No it is not. I was responding specifically to BigDaddy and his comments. See here: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-746438-2.html#13308798
The topic is how easily WB can be edited in a camera JPEG. You showed up at the end of our exchange and keep trying to introduce other topics. I'm not interested in what you have to say that's off topic.

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Jul 25, 2022 20:18:52   #
jcboy3
 
GeneinChi wrote:
I know this is a basic question but I don’t know the answer so please don’t respond like I’m an idiot. Keep the snark at the door. I’m pretty much a rookie regarding post processing having done some basic editing with JPEGS. If I want to teach myself more advanced techniques do I need to be shooting in raw or does a program like Luminar work with jpegs? I have two slots in my camera so I can shoot one in jpeg and one raw.


Shoot RAW. You get more bit depth, more exposure latitude, you control the parameters (brightness, contrast, noise reduction, sharpening), and it's easier to adjust white balance. You don't have to decide before you shoot what the image should look like.

I only shoot RAW + JPEG if I need to make quick deliveries to a customer, but I follow with fully processed images after the fact.

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Jul 25, 2022 20:30:34   #
epd1947
 
GeneinChi wrote:
I know this is a basic question but I don’t know the answer so please don’t respond like I’m an idiot. Keep the snark at the door. I’m pretty Flexibility much a rookie regarding post processing having done some basic editing with JPEGS. If I want to teach myself more advanced techniques do I need to be shooting in raw or does a program like Luminar work with jpegs? I have two slots in my camera so I can shoot one in jpeg and one raw.


You can edit jpegs in Lightroom, Luminar, Photoshop and pretty much any editing software. The issue is the amount of flexibility you have in editing when you are editing jpeg versus raw files. When your camera processes a jpeg the settings you selected for the shot (or those the camera selected for you if are using a fully automatic mode, “scene mode”, etc.) is baked into that jpeg and some of the data originally collected by the camera’s sensor which was not needed in creating the particular jpeg is just dumped. You are always ahead of the game if you retained the raw file. If you simultaneously captured jpeg you can certainly use that file, especially if it meets your needs straight out of camera, or with just some minor tweaks - but having the raw file available may well allow you to get a better end result as you become more proficient in editing.

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Jul 25, 2022 20:31:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
There are two types of people in this world: those who will tell you that you won't succeed unless you shoot in RAW and your grandmother.

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Jul 25, 2022 21:10:30   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
For real estate that matters (half million $ and up in most places), some photographers will carry cases of Daylight photo quality LED bulbs for lamps and floodlight fixtures, and flash units with CC filters, and sheets of ND for the windows...

Exactly my point.
burkphoto wrote:
I'd simply use an ExpoDisc pointed towards the sun and sky...

That just gives you an average of the two depending on which way you aim the ExpoDisc.

I just leave the WB set to Daylight. It's a lot less trouble.

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Jul 25, 2022 21:18:13   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JacksonHD wrote:
That's all I need to hear. I think I'll spend my time taking photos, improving my technique, composition, lighting, positioning, etc.



Lots more fun than sitting at a computer....
That's all I need to hear. I think I'll spend my t... (show quote)

I do what I want.
I don't care what Rockwell does, nor Joe Schmo.

Do what you want.
Beee yourself.
Good start.

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Jul 25, 2022 21:28:25   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Raw isn't just a file format, it's a way of life. RAW is one of the true wonders of modern digital photography. Many times while editing my RAW files, I begin to see my connection to the fabric of the universe.


Raw will set you free…..

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Jul 25, 2022 21:36:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
kcooke wrote:
Raw will set you free…..


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Jul 25, 2022 21:43:03   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When I shoot in RAW, I am a photographer.

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Jul 25, 2022 22:08:50   #
JacksonHD Loc: NorCal
 
Longshadow wrote:
I do what I want.
I don't care what Rockwell does, nor Joe Schmo.

Do what you want.
Beee yourself.
Good start.


Why, yes. Yes I will! Thank you.

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Jul 25, 2022 22:53:22   #
Abo
 
Processing raw files is the same as processing jpegs... except you have more
latitude with the raw files... the post processing program has a lot more data to work with.

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