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Jul 19, 2022 00:30:56   #
gwilliams6
 
JD750 wrote:
ENDING DSLR DEVELOPMENT.

PRODUCTION OF EXISTING MODELS CONTINUES.


The youtube headline is a clickbait one for sure, but what they go on to say in the video is correct that Nikon will still make the models they already have, just no new DSLR models, and that Canon is doing the same.

Use what you have until they break and until there are no parts to fix them, that is what is already happening with some DSLR models, you cant get parts to repair them. That is the real start of DLSR extinction IMHO.

Cheers

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Jul 19, 2022 17:08:18   #
Nickaroo
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
While very entertaining banter, keep in mind all manufacturing companies have one thing in mind, to manufacture a product that customers will buy. If there was a market for pin hole cameras made out of cat litter boxes, Nikon, Canon and everyone else would start building them.

Photographers and camera manufacturers alike are fortunate that improved performance is what the customer wants and is what the manufacturers are able to provide.

Mirrorless cameras are able to provide improved performance, which is why manufacturers are building (and promoting) them. If a flopping mirror was what people wanted, that’s what they would build.

I bet the camera manufacturers would get a real kick out of seeing all of you arguing back and forth. If you asked them which type of camera was best, they’d tell you, “The one that sells.”
While very entertaining banter, keep in mind all m... (show quote)


Okay, You are Basically saying that Photographers want a Camera that Performs. Well, if You would have read My earlier reply where I stated that I could Take a Photo with My Z9, my D850, My D750, D6, D500 and I were to put 16 by 20's or 24by30's with a Photo Taken by Each Camera, with all of the same subject, you would not be able to tell me or a panel of 5 Photogs which Camera was used to take the Photo That You May Have Said "Oh That Photo was taken with a Z9 or the D500"
So, tell me if I'am right or wrong, I'am Dying to Hear Your Response.

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Jul 19, 2022 17:18:49   #
Nickaroo
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
The youtube headline is a clickbait one for sure, but what they go on to say in the video is correct that Nikon will still make the models they already have, just no new DSLR models, and that Canon is doing the same.

Use what you have until they break and until there are no parts to fix them, that is what is already happening with some DSLR models, you cant get parts to repair them. That is the real start of DLSR extinction IMHO.

Cheers


My Friend happens to be a Nikon Rep. and Yes You are right. But, he told me that the D850, the D6, and even The New D780 along with the D5 are still being Produced. Plus, believe it or not, they still have a lot of D500's floating around and Nikon has Parts to repair any of the Camera's that I have listed in my reply. Plus they have Shutters and Sensors to Repair the D5600. Name any Nikon that You want and I will Reply to You very Quickly to Your Concerns.

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Jul 19, 2022 17:29:50   #
User ID
 
Nickaroo wrote:
Okay, You are Basically saying that Photographers want a Camera that Performs. Well, if You would have read My earlier reply where I stated that I could Take a Photo with My Z9, my D850, My D750, D6, D500 and I were to put 16 by 20's or 24by30's with a Photo Taken by Each Camera, with all of the same subject, you would not be able to tell me or a panel of 5 Photogs which Camera was used to take the Photo That You May Have Said "Oh That Photo was taken with a Z9 or the D500"
So, tell me if I'am right or wrong, I'am Dying to Hear Your Response.
Okay, You are Basically saying that Photographers ... (show quote)

If you believe "a camera that performs" is about image quality, then OK you happen to be wrong.

Some cameras perform far beyond some others, yet as you presented in your post, all half decent cameras can make images indistinguishable from each other.

Performance is about how well a camera *enables* users to pursue many of their photographic intentions. Image quality is NOT performance.

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Jul 19, 2022 17:36:40   #
Nickaroo
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You might look up the definitions of all the terms that compose DSLR.

D - Digital
S L - Single Lens
R - Reflex

That is 'reflex' as in reflex mirror, a flopping / flapping mirror that continuously moves in and out (reflex) of the path of light from the lens to the sensor / film. A Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera (MILC) is not a DSLR without a mirror, no more than a fish is not a bird without feathers ....


Gee, Thanks For The Information. I would never have figured that Out. I guess That I should Praise GOD for Blessing Me With My Z9 and My 400mm f 2.8 Nikon Z lens along with the new 2times Teleconverter. I even have a Third Blessing, my Wife is in Sinai Grace Hospital recovering from the Heart Attack when she looked at Her Checking Account. the 400mm f2.8 when the teleconverter is on it is simply amazing.

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Jul 19, 2022 17:57:59   #
Nickaroo
 
User ID wrote:
If you believe "a camera that performs" is about image quality, then OK you happen to be wrong.

Some cameras perform far beyond some others, yet as you presented in your post, all half decent cameras can make images indistinguishable from each other.

Performance is about how well a camera *enables* users to pursue many of their photographic intentions. Image quality is NOT performance.


Well My D850 Performs well and so does my D500. And if You wish to bring My D6 to the Party it really performs well. My Shutter Speed can go to 1/8000th of a sec. My D6 performs basically the same way, now my D500 goes to 1/4000 of a sec. but performs very well.

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Jul 19, 2022 18:33:11   #
Nickaroo
 
Najataagihe wrote:
I, most certainly, did not.

It’s a parody of a song.

A response to the parody of “Imagine”.


“Video killed the radio star…”


Expand your musical horizons.


I know the song and I Shot 2 of Paul McCartney's Concerts back in '94 at The Palace of Auburn Hills in Michigan. So I know the Song, But I Prefer Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd.

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Jul 19, 2022 18:45:13   #
Nickaroo
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine there were no mirrors
It's easy if you try
No DSLRs to slow us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the photographers happy everyday

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one


Even though I had the Album, I still happen to be one of the many like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd over The Beatles.

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Jul 19, 2022 19:12:57   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
Mirrorless has been out quite a while. Here is my early 50’s mirrorless camera. Burke and James Speed Press


(Download)

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Jul 19, 2022 20:06:55   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
kcooke wrote:
Mirrorless has been out quite a while. Here is my early 50’s mirrorless camera. Burke and James Speed Press


Mirrorless or mirror? That is the question. (I bought the Crown Graphic in Mobile, by the way. I see you're from Alabama.)


(Download)

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Jul 19, 2022 21:13:41   #
Nickaroo
 
User ID wrote:
If you believe "a camera that performs" is about image quality, then OK you happen to be wrong.

Some cameras perform far beyond some others, yet as you presented in your post, all half decent cameras can make images indistinguishable from each other.

Performance is about how well a camera *enables* users to pursue many of their photographic intentions. Image quality is NOT performance.


And What Say You to give me the Poorest example That One Could Give. Using My D6 And D850 are really Not That Hard To Get What I Need. My Z9 is Very Nice, but as Soon AS Nikon Releases its Updated Version, Then I Already Have A Kid That I'am Teaching and I Plan On Giving Him My Z9. So explain Yourself with actual Facts that Make any of these Camera's that I listed, unable to perform when put up against a Mirrorless Camera and You Better Not Name Sony because I will eat that for tomorrow's Lunch. Come on,, Give Me An Example other than what an ad would say. You are making this thread a lot of fun.

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Jul 19, 2022 21:19:20   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Nickaroo wrote:
Okay, You are Basically saying that Photographers want a Camera that Performs. Well, if You would have read My earlier reply where I stated that I could Take a Photo with My Z9, my D850, My D750, D6, D500 and I were to put 16 by 20's or 24by30's with a Photo Taken by Each Camera, with all of the same subject, you would not be able to tell me or a panel of 5 Photogs which Camera was used to take the Photo That You May Have Said "Oh That Photo was taken with a Z9 or the D500"
So, tell me if I'am right or wrong, I'am Dying to Hear Your Response.
Okay, You are Basically saying that Photographers ... (show quote)


I’ve ridden motorcycles going on 50 years. Performance is what you want and you expect. There is far more “performance” diversity among bikes than cars. I ride touring bikes and my performance interest is riding comfort, low engine rpm power and luggage capacity. I have no interest in sport bikes, where performance is measured by acceleration, top speed, high rpm power and handling. The typical sport bike lacks everything I want in a bike. Touring and sport bikes lack everything a dirt bike rider wants such as light weight, lots of ground clearance and the ability to climb insanely steep grades.

Now to cameras since that’s the topic you desire. I will not be taking my D800 on a bike trip in August. Great image quality but it’s to big and heavy to be stuffing into the saddlebag along with lenses. I think I will take the D7000. Smaller and lighter, good image quality and fast focusing with screw focus lenses. I’ve decided to not take the D5100. Good image quality, a bit smaller and lighter than the 7000, but auto focus requires lenses with internal motors, which tends to hunt more than the 7000.

If I was going on vacation in the truck, I’d take the D800 for me and the old D50 for my 8 year old grandson. If it got dropped, no big deal. For me, that’s what differences in performance means.

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Jul 19, 2022 21:35:18   #
Nickaroo
 
burkphoto wrote:
Oz, Kansas…


I'm Counting On You My Friend To Light The Board Up. You Are The Teacher, So School is in Session. BTW, the Bronchiectasis has now spread throughout all sections of my Lungs and I was diagnosed that My Bone Cancer is back, but it is just messing with My Leg Bones. I Beat Before and I will Conquer it again.My Wife Drove Me to The Synagogue on Saturday to Meet With Our Rabbi, of course I told Him that I did not need His Prayers. And that drew a Major Pinch from my Wife under the table no less. I loved Your Reply to the Guest being Oz,Kansas. I'm rolling over in Laughter and My Friends who won't leave told my Wife that she Knew what She was getting into when She Married Me. That went down like The Zeppelin.

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Jul 19, 2022 21:48:56   #
Nickaroo
 
JD750 wrote:
Correction: They will quit developing new DSLRs after the D6.

This year, something like 30% of their camera sales came from DSLRs, so I don’t see Nikon in a hurry to lose that revenue. DSLR production and sales will continue. However as revenue continues to decrease on the DLSRs, there will come a point beyond which it won’t be profitable to produce them.


And let's not forget the D780. I think that they may Produce the D850 also, and this is coming from a Very Close Friend of Mine Who Is A Field Rep. For Nikon and He Flies To Thailand Twice A Month To Look At Quality Control For Nikon. And I Believe That He Goes To Taiwan Also. He is a Really Cool Guy and He Could Set A Lot Of The Guys On This Thread for Their Misinformation, You know, All Of Nikon's Board Person's That Are Hear On This Thread. LOL!!!

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Jul 19, 2022 22:14:17   #
Nickaroo
 
JD750 wrote:
Mirrorless literally means no mirror. Technically there are many cameras that can meet this literal criteria. Lately, within the photography community, the term "mirrorless" has been used for an interchangeable mirrorless (no mirror or prism) lens camera. However this is a more recent narrowed use of the word, and the broader definition still applies.


What if You turn the Dial To MUP ON a Nikon Camera and set Your Camera Settings and Let's say that it is a D750, that could be construed as a MIRRORLESS Camera Right?

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