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Jul 17, 2022 12:46:01   #
Jerry Coupe Loc: Kent, WA
 
Even if all companies discontinued manufacturing DSLRs tomorrow, there are still thousands, maybe millions of good DSLRs that can continue to be used for years to come.

I recently did a photo workshop and the leader is a professional wildlife photographer and she continues to use Canon 1D Mark IVs which are about three generations of the 1D line old.

Mirrorless is undoubtedly the future, but DSLRs still have a long life ahead.

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Jul 17, 2022 12:46:16   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
keywest305 wrote:
So I did a photoshoot yesterday about 200 pics total outside with my D850 and 70-200 2.8 and 105 1.4 and what a great job this camera does. Not sure a mirrorless would make me any happier. IMO


Imagine IBIS support for both lenses.
Imagine zooming the viewfinder held to your eye for the pixel-level view of the image, both when composing / focusing and reviewing in bright sunlight.
Imagine no camera noise as you shoot, talk, coach, position your subject. Not a sound.
Imagine eye-tracking AF.

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Jul 17, 2022 12:49:19   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
keywest305 wrote:
So I did a photoshoot yesterday about 200 pics total outside with my D850 and 70-200 2.8 and 105 1.4 and what a great job this camera does. Not sure a mirrorless would make me any happier. IMO


Sometimes being satisfied with what ones got is the way to go. One should probably wait for a feature that would make what they do easier before moving to something new, different, or better. For me, the ability to not need a tripod for a 2 second or 4 second shot can be important. The ability to shoot at 60 fps can be important. The ability to shoot totally silent can be important. The ability to shoot in any kind of weather with no extra gear is absolutely important. These are some of the reasons I shoot with what I bought. Not everyone has those needs.

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Jul 17, 2022 12:59:26   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to be a better photographer, there are two things you must do above all others: buy a mirrorless camera and use it.


Sorry but I respectfully disagree. Do you think having a mirrorless camera would have made Ansel Adams a better photographer? What's behind the camera is much more important than what's in the camera.

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Jul 17, 2022 12:59:33   #
muphoto
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to be a better photographer, there are two things you must do above all others: buy a mirrorless camera and use it.


Oh, I can’t thank you enough! I didn’t realize that’s all it takes to make me better! I spent a lot of wasted time learning photography. I guess that’s why I have people say, “that’s a good picture, you must have a good camera.”
Silly me, I thought that I had at least something to do with it.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:05:58   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
stanikon wrote:
Sorry but I respectfully disagree. Do you think having a mirrorless camera would have made Ansel Adams a better photographer? What's behind the camera is much more important than what's in the camera.


If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:09:40   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
It doesn't take a genius to see the inevitable way this is going.
DSLRs are going the way of film cameras. If you can't see this you must be blind.

Will


Film… has come back… to some degree. A LOT of photographers are still using film and many have come back to film.

Similarly, not everyone is going to dump their DSLR and move over to Mirrorless. My thinking, and the thinking of many, is that as long as what we have does what we want it to do, no reason to change. Whatever the advantages of Mirrorless may be, they're not necessarily enough to get everyone to make the change.

My NEXT camera may also be a DSLR. I don't know. I'm not there, yet. One thing is for sure, though: most photographers probably do not need a Z9.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:10:32   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.


Ansel Adams did a great deal of post-processing. So are you saying none of that would have been necessary had he had a mirrorless? Are you saying that anyone who does post-processing is not a "Real Photographer?" I think you are incorrect on both points.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:10:40   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to be a better photographer, there are two things you must do above all others: buy a mirrorless camera and use it.


That's very funny. Even Mel Brooks couldn't come up with something this funny.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:11:33   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
kb6kgx wrote:
That's very funny. Even Mel Brooks couldn't come up with something this funny.



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Jul 17, 2022 13:13:13   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
muphoto wrote:
Oh, I can’t thank you enough! I didn’t realize that’s all it takes to make me better! I spent a lot of wasted time learning photography. I guess that’s why I have people say, “that’s a good picture, you must have a good camera.”
Silly me, I thought that I had at least something to do with it.


About as much sense as when someone cooks a meal you really enjoy, they must have a really good or stove.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:16:45   #
sheldon minsky Loc: iron mountain michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I don't know if I should spread this news, but Ford will be making some changes to its F150 for 2023.
I heard that the new F150 will run on political flatulence

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Jul 17, 2022 13:19:50   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
With some cameras you just get lucky, with a mirrorless camera you make your luck.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:20:10   #
User ID
 
Peterfiore wrote:
Hears a thought, You can even make drawings and paintings for fashion!

Arent thoughts inaudible ?

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Jul 17, 2022 13:31:28   #
nealbralley Loc: Kansas
 
You most certainly do not need a mirrorless camera to become a better photographer. You need to, at least initially, read and study a good deal on exposure and composition, become familiar with your camera, and practice taking photographs in many settings. You don't need the most expensive cameras, a mirrorless camera, or the most expensive lenses. A good photographer will get a good, or a great shot, with the camera in hand!

If you aren't yet a fully competent photographer, mirrorless isn't going to solve you challenge, nor will a DSLR alone for that matter. Education and practice makes perfect.

Don't believe the hype!

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