Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
Smartphones will kill off the DSLR within three years says Sony
Page <<first <prev 9 of 14 next> last>>
Jun 2, 2022 16:35:04   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Quixdraw wrote:
You can be a phoneographer or a photographer. I'll always be the latter, one way or another.


Don't you think that is a misleading distinction.... These devices have ceased being primarily phones a long time ago. There is a high quality camera in that little flat device whether we want to admit it or not...

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 16:40:34   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
MrBob wrote:
Do you think my 400 # JVC 37" TV stuck in my closet has any value ? Tube must be 2 foot long... PERFECT picture though


Sure, for playing Donkey Kong and watching VHS tapes. Real answer, no.

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 17:27:54   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it. Computational photography has a *long* way to go to achieve the control of depth of field we can get with full frame sensors. I think low light and long lenses are going to be around for a long time too. Is Sony thinking of abandoning its line of really nice cameras and just sell sensors?

https://www.techradar.com/news/smartphones-will-kill-off-the-dslr-within-three-years-says-sony


So why is Sony wasting resources making cameras?

Reply
 
 
Jun 2, 2022 17:42:20   #
Grimaldi
 
First, I'll put DSLRs and mirrorless cameras in the same category -- serious interchangeable lens cameras.
Second, smartphone cameras are putting a serious dent in the DSLR/mirrorless market.
Where do I think this will lead? The market for the DSLR/mirrorless will go to not quite zero. There will be less profit motive for the camera companies to produce new models and, maybe, some companies will get out of the business, just as HP got out of the photo printer business. There will be occasional new and improved models and they will be significantly more expensive than they are now. But there will always be a few of us hardcore photographers to prevent extinction.

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 17:51:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Grimaldi wrote:
First, I'll put DSLRs and mirrorless cameras in the same category -- serious interchangeable lens cameras.
Second, smartphone cameras are putting a serious dent in the DSLR/mirrorless market.
Where do I think this will lead? The market for the DSLR/mirrorless will go to not quite zero. There will be less profit motive for the camera companies to produce new models and, maybe, some companies will get out of the business, just as HP got out of the photo printer business. There will be occasional new and improved models and they will be significantly more expensive than they are now. But there will always be a few of us hardcore photographers to prevent extinction.
First, I'll put DSLRs and mirrorless cameras in th... (show quote)

The first, I definitely agree.

The second, also by attrition....

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 17:55:02   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Ask Kodak how the film business is doing. The DSLR killed the film SLR business and the smart phone camera killed the point and shoot digital camera business. That is how progress works. Phone cameras are getting better each year while DSLRs and Mirrorless cameras make incremental improvements every three years, four years or more. Mathematically, it does not look good for dedicated camera manufacturers and users. Within a few years the photography hobby will be in decline while phone photography will be increasingly popular. Even professional photographers will see a loss in business due to the proliferation of smart phone cameras. As the market shrinks, profits also diminish and existing camera manufactures will cut back on R & D and even incremental improvements will lag even further. It is a slippery slope. Mathew Bradey and Ansel Adams took spectacular photos with primitive equipment. What matters most in photography is the content and the technique to capture the moment. No one cares what equipment was used to take the photo. Who cares what brand of paint brush Leonardo DaVinci used to paint the Mona Lisa.

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 18:02:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Edia wrote:
Ask Kodak how the film business is doing. The DSLR killed the film SLR business and the smart phone camera killed the point and shoot digital camera business. That is how progress works. Phone cameras are getting better each year while DSLRs and Mirrorless cameras make incremental improvements every three years, four years or more. Mathematically, it does not look good for dedicated camera manufacturers and users. Within a few years the photography hobby will be in decline while phone photography will be increasingly popular. Even professional photographers will see a loss in business due to the proliferation of smart phone cameras. As the market shrinks, profits also diminish and existing camera manufactures will cut back on R & D and even incremental improvements will lag even further. It is a slippery slope. Mathew Bradey and Ansel Adams took spectacular photos with primitive equipment. What matters most in photography is the content and the technique to capture the moment. No one cares what equipment was used to take the photo. Who cares what brand of paint brush Leonardo DaVinci used to paint the Mona Lisa.
Ask Kodak how the film business is doing. The DSLR... (show quote)

Yup, attrition of the old photo pharts.
How many people listen to The Big Bands now...
Attrition by (via) generation(s).

Reply
 
 
Jun 2, 2022 18:03:30   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
MrBob wrote:
Don't you think that is a misleading distinction.... These devices have ceased being primarily phones a long time ago. There is a high quality camera in that little flat device whether we want to admit it or not...


Nope! They are a multifunctional device that does a variety of things pretty well. Don't have one, don't want one. I prefer purpose built specialist tools. There used to be cars that were boats and cars that were planes, they were not particularly good in either role. The worst thing is to be caught on a photo visit to a site that is infested with phoneographers.

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 18:05:30   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
What?
Like a DSLR shaped Smartphone Case featuring a Tripod Mount in the Bottom?

Maybe a shutter release upper right corner?

Bet it would sell...

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 18:12:45   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
How many people listen to The Big Bands now...


Music is art, some good, some bad. You can't compare art to technology. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and many others have stood the test of time and will be listened to probably forever. The big bands played in an art form that also still has a following. I don't know how long it will last, but if Sirius XM gets rid of the 40s station, I'm getting rid of my subscription. They tried it about 10 years ago and the protests and threats of subscription cancellations made them change their minds.

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 18:13:03   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
MrBob wrote:
Thats funny... I still have my Atari 400 and my Atari 800 still in orig. boxes with tape recorders as storage devices... I should pull out the 400 some time and plug in Space invaders cartridge just for the fun of it.... Sure wish I had a Commodore 64 or an original Apple computer though... Do you think my 400 # JVC 37" TV stuck in my closet has any value ? Tube must be 2 foot long... PERFECT picture though ! Ha Ha !


Everything has a value and everything has a price. It just depends on who wants it and how much bucks they have. I started out on an Atari and went to the Apple and then crossed over to Commodore 64 and finally got my first Packard Bell 8088. DOS! Those were the days.

Reply
 
 
Jun 2, 2022 18:15:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
therwol wrote:
Music is art, some good, some bad. You can't compare art to technology. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and many others have stood the test of time and will be listened to probably forever. The big bands played in an art form that also still has a following. I don't know how long it will last, but if Sirius XM gets rid of the 40s station, I'm getting rid of my subscription. They tried it about 10 years ago and the protests and threats of subscription cancellations made them change their minds.

Not the point, attrition was the point........

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 18:23:20   #
Imagemine Loc: St. Louis USA
 
Old school never gets to old 🤔🙂

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 18:27:49   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
I think you are trying a wind up Paul people will still use DSLR cameras because that is what they prefer to use.
Others will buy mirrored cameras because they like to have the latest kit.
It is personal choice what type of camera you use.

Reply
Jun 2, 2022 18:28:48   #
Bbarn Loc: Ohio
 
Could very well come down to implementation. If ILCs continue down a path to replicating the subject as accurately as possible and smartphones embrace and automatically implement AI processing that's typically done in post with an ILC image, I can see where many could view smartphones as taking "better" pictures than ILCs.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 9 of 14 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.