Jpeg and Raw: Not an argument. A destinction.
Jun 2, 2022 12:38:51 #
davyboy wrote:
What’s wrong with 2?
From a restricted population sample.
(In other words, biased.)
Jun 2, 2022 13:40:35 #
TheShoe
Loc: Lacey, WA
rmalarz wrote:
I agree with JD, here we go again.
Please, keep in mind this article was written 2 years ago. Secondly, these authors are paid to write. Quantity is probably more important than quality, even if their offerings are somewhat factual.
--Bob
Please, keep in mind this article was written 2 years ago. Secondly, these authors are paid to write. Quantity is probably more important than quality, even if their offerings are somewhat factual.
--Bob
Jun 2, 2022 14:43:47 #
Longshadow wrote:
From a restricted population sample.
(In other words, biased.)
(In other words, biased.)
It’s a small sample but on what basis do you say it’s biased?
And does it really doesn’t matter what pros do? Why? Pros have different priorities than most hobbyists here.
Jun 2, 2022 14:45:40 #
Jun 2, 2022 14:50:08 #
JD750 wrote:
It’s a small sample but on what basis do you say it’s biased?
And does it really doesn’t matter what pros do? Why? Pros have different priorities than most hobbyists here.
And does it really doesn’t matter what pros do? Why? Pros have different priorities than most hobbyists here.
You answered your own question...
Based on PROs.
No, it doesn't matter to me what PROs do,
I do what I want to do.
I don't want to be like them, I want to be like me.
Jun 2, 2022 14:52:56 #
Longshadow wrote:
You answered your own question...
Based on PROs.
Based on PROs.
So you are saying the small sample is biased to what pros do? But it’s a small sample so how can you say its representative of the bias of all pros? What is your confidence factor given the small sample size?
I’m just having a little fun. ;)
I think “it’s a small sample” is all you can really say.
Jun 2, 2022 14:55:40 #
JD750 wrote:
So you are saying the small sample is biased to what pros do? But it’s a small sample so how can you say its representative of the bias of all pros? What is your confidence factor given the small sample size?
I’m just having a little fun. ;)
I think “it’s a small sample” is all you can really say.
I’m just having a little fun. ;)
I think “it’s a small sample” is all you can really say.
Too small.......
CF Very low.
Jun 2, 2022 15:11:57 #
josquin1
Loc: Massachusetts
CHG_CANON wrote:
You can't post a troll topic and tell the trolls t... (show quote)
funny I shoot Jpeg most of the time and ON1 allows me to make the 1st 8 adjustments on your list quite easily. I've never been disappointed so far.
Jun 2, 2022 15:18:03 #
josquin1
Loc: Massachusetts
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine yourself as a successful photographer. Are you shooting in JPEG?
yep
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Jun 2, 2022 16:20:40 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
josquin1 wrote:
funny I shoot Jpeg most of the time and ON1 allows me to make the 1st 8 adjustments on your list quite easily.
Nope. Maybe you can show us. Below is a JPEG from a Nikon Z7. The WB is off and needs corrected. You can do that easily in On1? Let's see.
josquin1 wrote:
I've never been disappointed so far.
Jun 2, 2022 16:55:56 #
Ysarex wrote:
Below is a JPEG from a Nikon Z7. The WB is off and needs corrected. You can do that easily in On1? Let's see.
Ideally we should be setting the white balance as we convert the raw file.
But unless there is something deficient in ON1, the eyedropper can work on the JPEG. Here is the result from Capture One.
I clicked on the second white square in the Color Checker and ended up with 11417k@-3.4 tint. I wasn't so lucky with the other squares. But that is not a raw WB. It's the Capture One setting for adjusting the JPEG. It's on a different scale than the one intended for raw and does not line up with the color of the light.
Then I clicked on the white collar of the guy on the can and got 11600k@-5.5 tint. But the collar is a very small target and the result depends on where exactly I click because it contains a lot of noise.
I could not tell the difference between the two results on my calibrated monitor.
Two takeaways:
1. The WB needs to be set with a bright white area in the JPEG and you should avoid noisy areas. Your Styrofoam container should work.
2. The color checker is designed to be used with a raw image. It won't work well with a JPEG.
Jun 2, 2022 17:04:58 #
selmslie wrote:
Ideally we should be setting the white balance as ... (show quote)
re: 2- The color checker is designed to be used with all images, not exclusively RAW. It's not the color checker's fault if a JPEG editor can't handle doing a proper (acceptable) adjustment. It's much easier to work with in a RAW editor though.
Jun 2, 2022 17:29:44 #
Badgertale wrote:
I read a great article this morning about RAW and ... (show quote)
I used to shoot JPEG until I got on this forum.
Now raw is it.
A huge gigantic difference for me.
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