BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere

I lived in Chicago for over 30 years. I know all about the crime in that city.

My mention of "Chicago" is simply because when discussing gun deaths, none of you who point to Chicago, use the word "Illinois"...

If all the statistics are "skewed" why have you not gathered accurate ones and had them published?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Do I look like your research assistant Pendajo? You want it here then present it yourself.

I love your Spanish. Spelling sucks but at least I could somewhat understand. Oh BTW, I seldom ever drink so the borracho is completely screwed up. Must be you were too drunk to know what you were posting or just another Left Wing liar. Lot of that coming from the corrupt Left, eh?

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

May be. But at least I could understand what that poster said and did not come across as a dumb ass trying to insult him when it was you in the wrong all along, as USUAL.

Once AGAIN little boo hoo loses and is playing the FOOL all on his own.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

A couple of things I have no problem understanding is this:

Gun insurance PROTECTS nothing and nobody.

Doors are easily designed to be locked from the outside yet allow easy egress from the inside. No Fire Department problem at all.

A complete idiot Democratic President decided to make schools Gun Free Zones. As such honest citizens are not allowed to have firearms on school grounds. But of course that very same Democratic President was too STUPID to realize criminals, murderers who want to murder children have no problem violating that law to bring firearms onto school grounds. What did that law effectively do to eliminate school shootings? Answer, NOTHING. The Texas school shooter had just shot his grandmother. OMG!!! I just realized that is a felony violation. He might have murdered her. Isn’t that against the law. Apparently he just didn’t give a damn about breaking the law that day.

At least Dennis is smart enough to realize the truth about school shootings and other mass murders, in almost every one the murderer violated felony laws even before reaching the school. Yet Democrats want to pass even mor ridiculous idiotic laws criminals will not obey.

Dennis

chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA

Perhaps we use Chicago because it has a deserved reputation of course that would also depend on the neighborhood and even the time frame for the neighborhood.
For instance the Humboldt park area has a different economic and even ethnicity than it did thirty years ago when it was predominantly lower income and Puerto Rican and controlled by the Latin kings.
I don't know what the neighborhood is like now since I live in TN now.

Bison Bud

First off, having guns locked up by the army or ROTC, as in your example, is hardly having "total access." It is in fact government controlled access and one of the primary purposes of the well regulated militia in the 2nd amendment is that it needs to be separated from the federal government. However, I guess tunnel vision doesn't allow you to see that, especially when your purpose in life is to have the government run every aspect of it for you.

You also stated that we have trained police responsible for keeping our schools safe. While I am in favor of a strong police force and putting resource officers in our schools is a step in the right direction, it also appears to be rather obvious that it's just not enough or we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I stand by my statement that we need to harden security at these soft target rich locations and that this would by far be the most effective immediate response. As far as one way in and one way out being a problem for the Fire Marshall, it's not difficult to lock a door to outside access and still use it for an emergency exit. Have you never seen the push bar type locks used on many doors, in many places, for this very purpose? Geese, have you ever even been in a public building?

All in all, I think your statement that "If the "trained" police are afraid to go up against an AR-15, why would you expect a teacher to do it" may well be the most naive and/or stupid statement I've ever heard! In the first place, if they are afraid as you imply, it is not of the AR-15, but the active shooter no matter what firearm he or she chooses to use. Frankly, when many teachers have unexpectedly ended up in an active shooter situation they have apparently used their own bodies in a heroic effort to try to shield their students.
Do you really think they wouldn't rather be able to shoot back and possibly end the threat? No one here is asking any teacher or anyone else for that matter to carry a gun if they are not comfortable and capable of doing so. However, there are those that are both willing and capable and they could at least have a chance of stopping some nut job shooter if they have the tools available. In fact, it's already happened many times, yet you seem to want them to be completely defenseless and wait for the police to get there to protect them? I'm not trying to point fault at the police here, but when seconds count, the police are minutes away and that's just the reality of the situation. Honestly, the possibility of an immediate, lethal responsible can also help by being a deterrant, as these nut jobs are looking for easy targets that can't fight back in the first place.

On another note, I simply don't understand what you talking about when you referred to "Gun Insurance" and have no idea how that might help this situation. My guns are currently insured against loss, fire, and theft. However, I think your referring to something else entirely. Honestly, if somehow my purchasing "Gun Insurance" can prevent other school shootings, I'd be willing to look into it.

As, for your statistics and conclusions from them, I have to say that the parameters are far too subjective to draw any meaningful conculsions. Looks like yet another attempt to manipulate statistics to suit your personal and political agendas. So, blow that smoke elsewhere as your conclusions are laughable at best!

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

That's the response a puffed up, piss weak donut jockey that does't know poop from clay.

You continually call others liars but always pass on proving your own screeching assertions because ... there is no 'dum dum' data for you.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Another well written post. Thank you.
But beware of too much common sense. The Left won’t understand it and will accuse you of cheating.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Well then prove my statements wrong. JUMP Froggy, JUMP.

Dennis

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

I already *did ... you'd be too up-yourself to know it.

*May 31, 2022 22:49:57 this thread.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Must have kept it a secret from the rest of us.

Dennis

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

May 31, 2022 22:49:57

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

*MOSTLY random white people killing mostly random white people.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Uh huh. I disagree. That doesn’t make me a liar. Means I don’t trust your link.

Not even a nice try Bucko. Calm down private. You are getting all upset for nothing. Shhhhhhh. It’s alright.

Dennis

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

[quote=dennis2146]Uh huh. I disagree. That doesn’t make me a liar. Means I don’t trust your link.

Not even a nice try Bucko. Calm down private. You are getting all upset for nothing. Shhhhhhh. It’s alright.

Dennis[/quote

Who called you a liar? That's your MO

This is the part where you apologize or you put the donut down and prove Me wrong with your research . See how these things work?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I think you just continuing to Suck an Egg like an egg sucking dog works for me.

Dennis