Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Trying to be your history teacher and fact checker sure is tiresome. It does not matter what you think of hte Panthers, They were rightfully petitioning their government for the redress of thiergrieves--they were just. Yhey were just doing so while brandishing unloaded weapons, The fight freaked out and that was the beginning of most of the gun control regulations that you hate. Interesting that you do not even attempt to counter with facts or evidence--just opinions and hot air which is the only thing you ever contribute.

Only you and Rac use words that you don't understand. Think a little about "thum-less grasp" and if might dawn on you.

You said that 1% of all mass shootings were semi-auto weapons used. Don't try to change the premise of yur original assertion--just provide evidence or admit you were wrong. You say the "BIBI says" so provide a link.

"As I recall the Columbine massacre was committed by two students who had a female friend purchase firearms used. As it was a straw purchase the guns would not have been legally transferred. Look it up."

Re-read what you actually wrote. Yu will go to extraordinary tenths to avoid admitting yu said somethig foolish or incurate.

:A normal magazine is what comes with a pistol when purchased."

First of all we are talking about rifles not pistols but I will let that pass. ots starting to feel like I am correcting a child.

But to the point--if one purchases a 100 round drum with the AR does that make the drum a normal mag? According to your logic, it does. I disagree.

"Tell me why ghost guns should not be legal."

Res ipsa locuitur.

chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA

Would such a law have made a difference in this case.
The shooter had no history of mental illness

chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA

Seems that the reload rate has a direct effect on the number of rounds one can fire in a given time.
Kind of astonishing how people who like to cite supposed facts can be utterly lacking in common sense.
Believe me I am quite familiar with ballistics seeing how I carried an M16a1 when I was in the army.
Since I was a medic I was also required to qualify with a .45 pistol.
What pray tell is your firearms and ballistic background beyond Google and CNN.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

OMG!!! You are starting to sound like Shutterlag and DennyT with your ability to completely disregard any facts I say by concern the minuscule of your mind. The best example is your meteor hitting the earth. Who cares about a meteor hitting the earth? Listen up. I GET your point. Of course, in some situations muzzle velocity, energy at the target, the spin of the earth, spin of the bullet ALL make a difference at 1000 yards +. As a USMC intramural shooter I have shot at 1000 yards. I am not some novice in the shooting sports as you are trying to portray.

BUT, pay attention now, here comes a CLUE, At the distances shot in classrooms not one bit of bullshit you mentions means squat, nothing, nada, zilch. A .22 semi auto from the 1950’s loaded with.22 shorts would have perfectly to the same end. At 40 feet the firearm made no appreciable difference, did it? You are one of the posters who loves to spout on and on about your infinite knowledge regarding some subject. But AGAIN, your little bit of knowledge means nothing in the scenario of classroom shootings, does it? Who cares? You are boring the shite out of at least me and I assume others as well.

The Winchester Model 07 and the AR DO share exact firing traits in as much as both can have 20 round magazines, and will both shoot one round with each pull of the trigger. In that respect they are twins. Your on and on BS OF rate of fire, recoil, velocity etc. means nothing. In the classroom shooting it is nothing more than Bang, Bang, Bang. Either rifle would have worked perfectly and you know it.

You can continue on and on trying to impress someone but I am done.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

What is A1 and A2? Are you talking about Amendment 1 and 2? And when you on the Left try to take away the 1st Amendment what will be used by citizens, patriots to protect the 1st Amendment? I am thinking that is where the 2nd Amendment will come in.

Keep talking. My respect for you is already at a new LOW. Hell, one more post from you and it will be at the very bottom of the barrel.

You better stay in Portugal where you belong.

Dennis

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

The madman killed 19 innocent children and two teachers while armed guards literally let him fire away with a killing machine styled rifle; and you continue dancing around the undeniable with crap rationalizations, and deflections. The same thing happened in Buffalo and too many other tragic occasions to list. Why?
The rationalizations and deflections make me sick to my stomach. Nobody, NOBODY needs an AR 15 styled rifle.
All this talk about gun comparisons is overlooking the carnage, and death—the real problem in this country. What has gone so wrong in this pseudo god-loving country?

BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere

The gunhuggers need AR-15s because it makes them feel like Rambo.

Feeling like Rambo is ALMOST as exciting to gunhuggers as reading, hearing, or watching others get killed by their brethren. After each killing, they all light up and smoke a cigarette.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Apparently you are not paying attention OR are just being a Left Winger going for your anti gun agenda. I am having basically a discussion with Bazbo pointing out a Winchester 1907 rifle or a 1950’s .22 rifle with a tubular magazine could have done the very same killing in that classroom, in almost every building. Yet you decide to choose out only me as if you somehow think I approve of the killings.

I do not approve of mass shootings anymore than you do. No Conservative does even though, to suit your agenda, you on the Left LIE and say we do.

BTW they were not armed guards but police officers. If you have a problem with them then take that up with them and not me.

You tell us nobody NEEDS an AR15 style rifle. When has anything depended on need. I don’t hear anybody on the Left decrying the same rifle but with a different plastic stick such as has been available in America and used by sportsmen for over 100 years. Yet to suit your agenda you choose a similar rifle but with a different stock because, let’s face it, it looks scary to you on the Left. Same characteristics as the over 100 years old rifle. For every trigger pull the rifle fires. Same characteristics as a 1940’s .22 rifle owned by millions of teenagers. With each pull of the trigger the rifle fires. Consider, nobody NEEDS a Corvette that goes 160 mph. Nobody NEEDS a vehicle at all as long as you on the Left provide mass transportation for all of us. Nobody NEEDS alcohol or illegal drugs.

Why do you on the Left blame the killer for every OTHER type of murder EXCEPT when a firearm is used. Then the murderer is blameless but the firearm takes the blame? Think about it. Try the common sense approach.

You ask what has gone wrong in society. I could give you a hell of a list and others could add to it. Let’s start with the lack of respect for life started by the Left Wing and mass abortions at will for any reason imaginable. The couple wanted a boy but God is giving them a girl. KILL IT. What about the lack of respect toward our own military, police and first responders? Look at the comments right here from the likes of jcboy wanting military dead, calling them baby killers etc. surely you might recall when our police and military were respected members of society. These days police are being assassinated at record levels and the Left does give a shit. Tell me when you have ever spoken out AGAINST police being assassinated. EVER????? I doubt you have, have you? Your side routinely speaks out about black criminals being killed by the police but nary a word about police killings. You sure care about that part of our society don’t you?

Dennis

BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere

Kind of difficult to "respect" the police when they stand in the hallway while 19 children are being cut to pieces by a right-wing nut job.

RESPECT is EARNED! It's NOT a RIGHT!
RESPECT is an HONOR that one bestows on someone who has EARNED it through their deeds!

YOU are a hypocrite! You claim to be all concerned over abortion and think it is YOUR decision on how OTHER people view THEIR choice then, you feebly defend people who kill others - for no other reason than fearing loss of your precious guns.

One can only hope that YOU get to experience, first-hand, the very same pain that the families in Uvalde and Buffalo are going through. YOU deserve it!

I've said this before and will continue to say this till the day you die.... YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO "ALL" LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY!

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Laws do not stop those that do not obey laws.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

A friend of mine, who is a liberal progressive posted this as a meme:

"If a child is hitting people with a stick, I would blame the child and not the stick. But, I would still take the stick away."

I answered, would you take all the sticks away from all the children though?

No reply in the last 48 hours.

Bison Bud

The problem with trying to have a real discussion with someone that has a very liberal mindset is that they can never see past their own agenda and even consider the other side of an issue. It's simply eyes on the prize and they will say or do anything that helps them achieve their goal which is generally power and control over others to make them conform to what they feel is way things should be in their fantasy world. Reality, equality, freedom, and even common sense have no place in this liberal mindset. It's truly a sick and broken world we now live in! Lord help us all.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

I agree with you on the police response.

But by all reports, that kid was about as far away from the right as one can get--but of course that wouldn't fit your maniacally extreme Lib. bias or the false point you are trying to plant here.

I do find it ironic though that you are so passionate about those killed by guns each year, but not even a mention from you about all of the adolescent and young adults being killed by Fentanyl. It is the leading cause of death for the ages 18-45. It was responsible for over 70K deaths in the US last year. Far more the gun deaths.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!!

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

A 22 has to be placed fairly well to be lethal. A 223, not so much. A 223 may not be all some would make it out to be, but it's a lot different than a 22. With a 22 I'd guess there would have been less dead and more wounded, though some would still be dead.