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May 25, 2022 12:59:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
And remember -- professional chefs almost all prefer gas over electric.

COOL! I prefer gas burners over electric, but I like an electric oven, without an exposed primary heating element.
Luckily we have both.

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May 25, 2022 13:22:32   #
Henlopen Loc: Lewes, Delaware
 
therwol wrote:
You're right. I'm going to start using this camera again. Bigger is better. You just said so. I believe you. I always do.


All you need is a digital sensor!

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May 25, 2022 13:42:05   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
Because that 40% that remains is the crème de la crème.



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May 25, 2022 14:23:08   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Henlopen wrote:
All you need is a digital sensor!


Lucky for me, one is available for $26K. So the total cost of the rig would be $26K + the $150 my dad paid for the camera in 1969. If you scroll down after clicking on the link, what camera did they put this thing on? It proves I'll be in business soon. Say, can I borrow $26K?

https://petapixel.com/2021/07/09/largesense-launches-the-ls45-a-full-size-4x5-large-format-digital-back/

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May 25, 2022 14:36:12   #
Henlopen Loc: Lewes, Delaware
 
Think I'd wait for the color sensor!

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May 25, 2022 14:46:13   #
MDI Mainer
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Luck is the residue of shooting with a full-frame camera.


I would come up with a responsive bon mot, but this is so delphic I can't even decipher what it's supposed to mean, but I do know the corollary is that "Skill is the result of shooting with a crop-frame body.".

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May 25, 2022 14:54:26   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
It's hard to have good luck with the wrong sensor size.

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May 25, 2022 15:28:36   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
therwol wrote:
You're right. I'm going to start using this camera again. Bigger is better. You just said so. I believe you. I always do.


Yes...this caméra is the right one...as long You still have the "medium" to load into it...

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May 25, 2022 15:30:26   #
neillaubenthal
 
I'm actually surprised at this introduction. With the smaller overall size of FF bodies in the days of mirrorless and potentially shutterless…along with the component shortages every industry with electronics involved is seeing…and the continual improvement in phone cameras I didn't think we would see any more non FF bodies or cameras introduced.

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May 25, 2022 15:56:05   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Dan' de Bourgogne wrote:
Yes...this caméra is the right one...as long You still have the "medium" to load into it...


They certainly do make the "medium" to fit this camera. (4x5 film). Even though I haven't used the camera since the 1970s, it appears to be fully functioning other than the mirrors in the rangefinder needing to be re-silvered. I used the rangefinder for handheld "street" photography, but I took many pictures with the camera on a tripod using the ground glass back (with the black cloth over my head) for focusing. I still have a 4x5 Omega D2 enlarger in my garage, but it hasn't seen use since the 1980s. I just got too busy in my career and with my family to keep my darkroom going. Of all of the cameras I've owned, I kept two, this Crown Graphic and a Nikon FTn, my first camera. I have a few lenses for that one. I know that this discussion is off topic, and showing a picture of that camera was an attempt to be funny in a discussion of sensor size.

Back on topic, I think that Canon releasing some top notch APS-C cameras is a good thing. The difference between APS-C and full frame isn't just sensor size. It's camera size and weight. It's lens size and weight. The smaller size and weight of everything and good IQ has always been attractive to a lot of people. Cost of everything tends to be less than full frame options as well.

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May 25, 2022 17:16:57   #
Mongoose Loc: Dublin, Ohio
 
No luck to it. It's all the shooters skill.

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May 25, 2022 18:11:27   #
stevefrankel
 
Now the Leica has killed the CL (my favorite camera is now an orphan), and some of the best APS-C lenses are from Sigma, would it make sense for Sigma to release an L-mount to RF mount adapter so that Leica and Sigma L-mount lenses could be used on the R7 and R10? Since Sigma already produces L-mount lenses, would this cause patent or engineering difficulties? This would provide CL owners like me with an upgrade path and provide Canon with a stable of at least 30 APS-C lenses made by Leica and Canon they could use with the R7 and R10 immediately.

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May 25, 2022 18:44:58   #
Craig Meyer Loc: Sparks, NV
 
The same argument's natural extension if that anything less than 8x10 is too small. But 11X14 is better.......

Each format size has its purposes and advantages and drawbacks. It is a choice.
C

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May 25, 2022 20:21:49   #
cwp3420
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Exactly. My Fuji XT-4 is what I use 90% of the time right now.



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May 25, 2022 20:23:48   #
cwp3420
 
Red6 wrote:
Every time I hear a full-frame user explain the benefits of full-frame over APS-C I have to ask, if a bigger sensor is better then why are you not using a medium format camera or even a view camera.

The full-frame users then explain to me how the full-frame cameras are easier to handle, more convenient and affordable than the medium frame cameras.

These are the EXACT same arguments I use to explain why I use APS-C format over full-frame!



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