MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
Sounds like a logic class I once took... One or the other or both.....
Timothy S wrote:
By the way, my crop sensor crops out 37.5% of the frame, which is a lot, but much better than many cameras. I do enjoy the reach it gives me with my wildlife photography emphasis.
What are you shooting with?
I don't know where you got that figure, but you have to compare area to area.
So-called "full frame" cameras produce a 24x36mm image, that's 864 square millimeters.
An "APS-C" camera from Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Pentax uses a sensor that's 15.6x23.7mm, or approx. 369 sq. mm.... or
57.3% smaller than "full frame".
A Canon APS-C camera uses a slightly smaller 14.9x22.3mm or approx. 332 sq. mm. That's
61.6% smaller than "full frame".
The third common type of crop sensor is Micro 4/3 used in Olympus and Panasonic. it's 13x17.3mm or about 224 sq. mm. That's
over 70% smaller than FF.
If the FF camera is 24MP...
Cropping a 24MP full frame image down to APS-C (Nikon, Sony, etc.) size reduces it to 10.25MP.
Cropping that FF image down to Canon APS-C size reduces the image to 9.22MP.
Cropping the FF image down to Micro 4/3 size reduces only leaves about 7.2MP.
Or you can get a 24MP APS-C camera, with more than double the resolution of cropping a 24MP FF image to APS-C... or a 24MP M4/3 camera offers more than triple the resolution of cropping a 24MP image to M4/3.
There is no comparison. When I admire the wonders of a sunset or the beauty of the moon, my soul expands knowing I captured it with a full-frame camera.
Any one ever tear apart an old digital compact camera? My old Kodak was approximately 2mp I think. The sensor was something like 3/8” x 1/4”. Like 6x9mm? The credit card sized jobs are a bit smaller.
PHRubin wrote:
NO! Cropping throws away more than 1/2 the individual elements (pixels) of a photo. For Canon the factor is 1.6 in both length and width so that means it leaves 1/(1.6 X 1.6) = 0.39 or only 39% of the original ones.
As previously mentioned, if both cameras are of similar pixel count, the full frame camera's pixels are much larger and so have a better signal to noise ratio, or, putting it another way, add less noise to the photo.
i think you explained it ,perfectly, i was wondering too
CHG_CANON wrote:
If your sensor throws away 50% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?
Switch to Canon and only lose 40% of the frame?
mikeroetex wrote:
Switch to Canon and only lose 40% of the frame?
The 1.6x EOS crop factor makes it the other way ...
CHG_CANON wrote:
The 1.6x EOS crop factor makes it the other way ...
See? That’s why I left crop sensors. Of course, my Dad and his Hasselblad doesn’t understand “full frame!”
mikeroetex wrote:
See? That’s why I left crop sensors. Of course, my Dad and his Hasselblad doesn’t understand “full frame!”
'because the Hassy is a crop with the crop factor less than 1.
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
mikeroetex wrote:
See? That’s why I left crop sensors. Of course, my Dad and his Hasselblad doesn’t understand “full frame!”
Thats funny... Tell your Dad that my little DP2 Merrill with APS-C sensor and only not much larger than a pack of cigarettes will rival ANY Hassy image you can DISPLAY on this site... This is not a Hasselblad dig but just a practical statement for all the non professionals who don't enlarge and post on sites like FB with it's compression... You don't need the big clunkers for normal postings.
MrBob wrote:
Thats funny... Tell your Dad that my little DP2 Merrill with APS-C sensor and only not much larger than a pack of cigarettes will rival ANY Hassy image you can DISPLAY on this site... This is not a Hasselblad dig but just a practical statement for all the non professionals who don't enlarge and do not post on the internet with it's compression...
The Internet does not have compression.
MrBob wrote:
You don't need the big clunkers for normal postings.
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
Sorry Ysarex... I stand corrected. I was thinking of Facebook as my fingers got away from me... I edited my post to reflect my mishap... Thank you.
Great answer! I feel a D500 can hold it's own with many of the more expensive and newer cameras out there. JMO
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