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May 7, 2022 14:05:36   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
All the mentioned cameras have something worthwhile. There is a place for each, or one of the competition. That is why I have 4 of the 5 cameras listed in my signature.

The T2i (the 5th) is still a serviceable one and as long as I use it within its limitations, it does a fine job.

The SX50, a bridge camera, has the longest focal length of them all, longer than my Tamron tele. Given enough available light, it takes wonderful photos. My best eclipse photo was taken with it.

The 2 Lumix cameras are for general pocket carry, one with a bigger sensor (1" on the ZS100) for better quality and competes with the RX100, and the other with a longer tele (720 mm, 35 equiv on the ZS80), which competes with the HX99.

Then there is the 80D, the workhorse which I use for most of my photography shooting.

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May 7, 2022 14:18:23   #
Doc Barry Loc: Huntsville, Alabama USA
 
sgomboz wrote:
I have been using Sony cameras for quite some time. My main workhorse was my Sony A7 iii. Over the years of carrying a lot of equipment, I purchased a Sony rx100 Vii and a Sony rx10 iv. Now a days it seems I use these two camera exclusively and my photographs seem to be as good as if they were show with my A7 iii. I shoot street and nature most of the time. I guess I just wanted some peoples opinions on these camera and have discovered what I have. Or if anyone has any comments on this topic.
I have been using Sony cameras for quite some time... (show quote)


I have a Nikon D7000, D810, D850, RX100 VII and iPhone 13 Pro Max. Never use the D7000. The 13Pro Max is always with me and the imagery is not bad and often more than good enough. The D810 and D850 are both outstanding, but I must plan ahead when, where, and what I am shooting. I have over a dozen pro glass lenses for the cameras. Now, the RX100 VII (M7) fits in my pocket or in a nifty belt pouch and is a great grab and go camera. Its IQ is very good and suitable for most applications. The list of features is long and it takes a bit of learning to get the most from this fine camera.

For over two years, Sony has indicated that the M8 will be released soon. If it does, I'll buy one; however, I don't think the M8 will ever be available. What more can the M8 include or improve over the M7 that would make it a game changer? More pixels, faster processor, wider zoom range, hot shoe??? 20 Mpixels, 8.3x zoom, 64 (boosted) to 12,800 ISO, connectivity of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and NFC, EVF, touch screen, and so on? What can Sony add to make the M8 a must have camera?

If I could have just one camera, the RX100 VII would be the be compromise.

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May 7, 2022 14:21:26   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Doc Barry wrote:
I have a Nikon D7000, D810, D850, RX100 VII and iPhone 13 Pro Max. Never use the D7000. The 13Pro Max is always with me and the imagery is not bad and often more than good enough. The D810 and D850 are both outstanding, but I must plan ahead when, where, and what I am shooting. I have over a dozen pro glass lenses for the cameras. Now, the RX100 VII (M7) fits in my pocket or in a nifty belt pouch and is a great grab and go camera. Its IQ is very good and suitable for most applications. The list of features is long and it takes a bit of learning to get the most from this fine camera.

For over two years, Sony has indicated that the M8 will be released soon. If it does, I'll buy one; however, I don't think the M8 will ever be available. What more can the M8 include or improve over the M7 that would make it a game changer? More pixels, faster processor, wider zoom range, hot shoe??? 20 Mpixels, 8.3x zoom, 64 (boosted) to 12,800 ISO, connectivity of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and NFC, EVF, touch screen, and so on? What can Sony add to make the M8 a must have camera?

If I could have just one camera, the RX100 VII would be the be compromise.
I have a Nikon D7000, D810, D850, RX100 VII and iP... (show quote)


Absolutely, and that would be a very good choice.

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May 7, 2022 14:35:49   #
sgomboz Loc: Chicago
 
Thanks for that input.. I understand that completely

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May 7, 2022 14:41:13   #
dhspeck
 
What was it that you didn't like about them, Jerry?

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May 7, 2022 14:44:49   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
a6k wrote:
I still have my HX50 (ancestor of HX99). When I travel I put in my rear right pants pocket or the cell phone holster that I found that fits it perfectly. The tiny sensor has limits and I do miss both raw shooting and a VF. I also keep in my my bag under the ɑ6500 with large lens. It really takes almost no extra effort or room compared to my cell phone and can actually zoom quite well. It can't really do big blowups but I almost never print anyhow.

My bigger Sony cameras (RX10m4, ɑ6500) make better pictures but I would never leave it home for any trip. I have carried it into places where cameras are not actually allowed. I have attached an example. It was taken at dusk while walking to a place in Australia (Phillip Island) where a rare, tiny penguin is viewed from a bunker as they come ashore. Photos are not allowed because people cannot be trusted to keep their flashes off. This picture did not violate the rules but I was not allowed to carry a normal camera from the parking lot to the bunker. The best camera is the one you are allowed to have with you.

For those who are familiar with Sony EXIF, note the Brightness Value which is around 5. Ten is normal daylight. So it was five stops darker than Sunny 16. The equivalent lens length on this shot was about 650 mm.
I still have my HX50 (ancestor of HX99). When I tr... (show quote)


Lovely shot ⭐⭐⭐

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May 7, 2022 14:44:50   #
markwilliam1
 
jimmol wrote:
I've been interested in the RX10 IV because of the excellent reviews it's received. I recently compared it with my Panasonic FZ300 at 1200 mm effective focal length. The Sony was slightly better, but not much. I'm not sure it's worth 4 times the price. Also, there is a gotcha: Sony puts the wrong value in the EXIF field for Focal Length in 35 mm Film. Like the FZ300, it can double the effective focal length in generating the JPEG image, but it always shows 600 mm when it does so. The FZ300 shows an accurate effective focal length all the way to 1200 mm.
I've been interested in the RX10 IV because of the... (show quote)

So What! There’s no comparison between the two!

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May 7, 2022 14:45:15   #
James56 Loc: Nashville, Tennessee
 
I have both the Sony RX10M4 and RX100M6. The RX10M4 has 600mm of zoom, the RX100M6 has 200mm of zoom. Both IMO are amazing cameras. I love the reach of the RX10 with 600mm zoom. That allows me to get some fantastic close ups. I love photographing musicians, there's a bunch here in Nashville, and the RX10 does a respectful job. Here's a few of my attempts. These were taken at some distance from the subject, most at 600mm. That Zeiss lens does the job!

African Scene Zoo Ilumination DSC01491-01 by James Frazier, on Flickr

Ricky Skaggs DSC04816-01 by James Frazier, on Flickr

Michael W. Smith DSC03077-01 by James Frazier, on Flickr

Anne Wilson DSC05129-01 by James Frazier, on Flickr

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May 7, 2022 16:03:38   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
billnikon wrote:
On vacations I only carry one camera, the Sony HX99, has a Zeiss 24-720 mm lens. Shoots RAW, has a pop up viewfinder and flash, even the rear screen folds down for LOW shots. This camera does it all for me.


Top-level shooting ❤️🎯❤️🎯❤️

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May 7, 2022 16:11:34   #
sgomboz Loc: Chicago
 
Those are fantastic photographs .. I believe I made two good choices

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May 7, 2022 16:27:09   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jimmol wrote:
I've been interested in the RX10 IV because of the excellent reviews it's received. I recently compared it with my Panasonic FZ300 at 1200 mm effective focal length. The Sony was slightly better, but not much. I'm not sure it's worth 4 times the price. Also, there is a gotcha: Sony puts the wrong value in the EXIF field for Focal Length in 35 mm Film. Like the FZ300, it can double the effective focal length in generating the JPEG image, but it always shows 600 mm when it does so. The FZ300 shows an accurate effective focal length all the way to 1200 mm.
I've been interested in the RX10 IV because of the... (show quote)


For IQ I’m sure you’re Panasonic is great and for most situations is a fine choice. The advantages you get when you pay for the Sony start with a 1” 20mp sensor rather than a 12mp 1/2.3” sensor. The biggest advantage is if you shoot wildlife or action. The RX10MIV has the same AF system as their high end A9. Couple that with a 24fps frame rate with continuous AF and for BIF or action the FZ300 can’t come close.

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May 7, 2022 19:23:49   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
billnikon wrote:
On vacations I only carry one camera, the Sony HX99, has a Zeiss 24-720 mm lens. Shoots RAW, has a pop up viewfinder and flash, even the rear screen folds down for LOW shots. This camera does it all for me.


You have a great eye proving that it’s not the camera but the photographer.

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May 7, 2022 20:50:59   #
jimmol
 
Thank you for your reply. I do give Sony an edge for quality; at four times the price, I would hope so. The focusing on the FZ300 is very fast, whether or not it does what the Sony A series does. I've found the fZ300 excellent for wildlife. It can take burst shots at 30 frames per second while focusing. However, I find this unnecessarily fast and prefer to use 6 frames per second most of the time for animals and other moving subjects. For me, the fatal flaw in the Rx10 is that it provides wrong information on the effective focal length.

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May 7, 2022 21:04:44   #
RustyM
 
jimmol wrote:
Thank you for your reply. I do give Sony an edge for quality; at four times the price, I would hope so. The focusing on the FZ300 is very fast, whether or not it does what the Sony A series does. I've found the fZ300 excellent for wildlife. It can take burst shots at 30 frames per second while focusing. However, I find this unnecessarily fast and prefer to use 6 frames per second most of the time for animals and other moving subjects. For me, the fatal flaw in the Rx10 is that it provides wrong information on the effective focal length.
Thank you for your reply. I do give Sony an edge ... (show quote)


I have the rx10. I’m not sure what you mean by “provides wrong information on the effective focal length” or why that’s a fatal flaw. Would you please elaborate?

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May 7, 2022 21:23:48   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
I own both cameras as well plus the Sony A r 7 4. All are great cameras. The RX100 VII is my walk around camera. For Several years the RX10 Iv was my go to camera. Now it is my back up camera to the r7iv. There are plenty of times when changing lenses on the mirrorless is not practical. I use the range of the other cameras to fill in the gaps.

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