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Apr 21, 2022 15:08:08   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
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Gene51 wrote:
I think he answers the question in the title of his article in his summary:

"This is why tripods will maybe never become obsolete for me, even when image stabilization is able to stabilize 20 stops and when we can use ISO 50,000 without any noise. It will always be in my bag, unless I forget it, of course." Which he wrote specifically pointing to the value of a tripod in compositional fine tuning, but which can easily be expanded to include other types of photography. (partial quote/Unquote)

Excellent reply and proofs for tripod use or not. No question that your beautiful cat is tack sharp hand held, but the Heron that far away is a totally different matter. Too bad you did not have an equivalent hand held photo of the Heron for comparison. But I think we all know how that would have turned out.
I think he answers the question in the title of hi... (show quote)


Thanks!

Hand held at 1260mm (equivalent) with so little light late afternoon heavy overcast, you're right - it would have been an abstract at best. FYI, the heron was about 40 m away if I remember correctly. I don't think the EXIF data shows that. A quick calculation with a DoF calculator shows a DoF of from 39.6 m - 40.4 m for an 800mm lens @F8, and the EXIF shows 39.46 - 40.15 m so I am in the ballpark.

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Apr 21, 2022 15:18:55   #
DRam11 Loc: Polson, MT
 
I haven’t read all 7 pages, so this may have come up. Tremors make a tripod essential for me. Hi ISO helps, but there are times when a shot would be better with lower ISO and a bit longer exposure time. I’d guess there are others in the same fix.

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Apr 21, 2022 17:05:28   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
Christian Irmler, an Austrian landscape photographer and painter has written a thought-provoking piece for Fstoppers in which he argues that the current state-of-the-art in image stabilization and sensor performance at high ISOs may have made tripods obsolete. Fstoppers is an online community and resource which reaches 1.5 million photographers each month.

As he provocatively put it a tripod may have "become a relic from a time with poor technology." (He does acknowledge that a tripod is still necessary for focus stacking and can serve as a useful aid to thoughtful composition.)

Given the frequent (some might go so far as to say obsessive) discussion of tripods on UHH (to which I will plead guilty to some degree) I think the question merits further dialog.

My personal conclusion is that ponderously heavy, stable (and expensive tripods) are no longer the critical tool they once were, and that the still-useful functions of a tripod can be fulfilled by lighter and more portable gear.
Christian Irmler, an Austrian landscape photograp... (show quote)


I do not think that tripods are obsolete, but I do agree that they are really only necessary for specific types of photography, such as night or possibly studio photography. I have owned a tripod for over 50 years but it rarely gets any use. I have never traveled with a tripod even in the film era. With the advances in technology, if anything the use of the tripod is even less needed for my type of photography. For me a tripod for travel, street, animal or landscape photography was never practical. If I was planning to photograph the northern lights, then I would use a tripod.

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Apr 21, 2022 17:14:21   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
BigDaddy wrote:
This picture is amazing. I'm not a professional photographer by any stretch, but to me, this picture would be impossible from a moving boat with a 30 second exposure. How is this possible?

Looking at the EXIF, it appears it was taken on 7/28/2016 at 7:30 in Chicago. Should be full daylight at that time, not night?
Then I wondered how all the building lights were on at 7:30PM in July? I'm not saying it's fake, but it has me in a state of wonderment. To me, a 30 sec exposure from a moving boat would be just a massive blur?
This picture is amazing. I'm not a professional ph... (show quote)


Exif data might not be correct for date and time. Most of my images have the wrong clock info because I take the batteries out of my cameras when not in use and rarely bother to set the date and time in the cameras. I do know when the images are uploaded to my computer because the software for that tags the time to the files as they are created.

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Apr 21, 2022 17:17:15   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
Christian Irmler, an Austrian landscape photographer and painter has written a thought-provoking piece for Fstoppers in which he argues that the current state-of-the-art in image stabilization and sensor performance at high ISOs may have made tripods obsolete. Fstoppers is an online community and resource which reaches 1.5 million photographers each month.

As he provocatively put it a tripod may have "become a relic from a time with poor technology." (He does acknowledge that a tripod is still necessary for focus stacking and can serve as a useful aid to thoughtful composition.)

Given the frequent (some might go so far as to say obsessive) discussion of tripods on UHH (to which I will plead guilty to some degree) I think the question merits further dialog.

My personal conclusion is that ponderously heavy, stable (and expensive tripods) are no longer the critical tool they once were, and that the still-useful functions of a tripod can be fulfilled by lighter and more portable gear.
Christian Irmler, an Austrian landscape photograp... (show quote)


As usual futurists live in a fantasy world of their own.

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Apr 21, 2022 18:05:20   #
MJPerini
 
Tripods are not obsolete. There are lots of situations where they are anywhere from beneficial to required, but certainly advancing technology has vastly increased the number of situations where they are not as necessary as they might have been in years past. That is great.
People like to make sweeping generalizations, .....that are generally not very helpful.
There are no Tripod police --no one will force you to use one, if you choose not to. ;-))
For the work I do, I still use one 15-25% of the time

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Apr 21, 2022 19:35:29   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I use a tripod 100% of the time because I often blend one or more exposures together and I always get sharp images. My advice is to ignore anyone that makes bold statements.

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Apr 21, 2022 19:47:07   #
Nickaroo
 
I will always have a need for a tripod. If I"am doing Macro on my Rail system or just Focus stacking shots it comes in handy. If I'am camped out near my Pond I set it up in the Morning and Shoot the Eagles and Ospreys I can mount my Nikon600mm f/4 or 800mm f/5.6 and I don't have to worry about getting great shots with those beasts mounted on my Tripod. Occasionally, and very rarely do I leave Home without it. Now, when I shoot University of Michigan Football or Basketball, I have to have 2 Mono's going with 2 different lenses and I will not sit and try to cure Blurs of plays because I thought that I did not need my Mono's, and I have Topaz Sharpen AI, but that only goes so far. I do have a Friend that Drags Hid D850 with a 600mm f/4 Nikon Lens and he tracks the Ospreys, Hummingbirds like a scout and he never Blurs a photo. It is truly a sight to behold, and then again he did not break His Humerus in His shoulder like I did and they did not expect me to get full use of my right arm back. A Total Reversal Replacement was performed and it still has me on Pain-Meds, plus I had 2 other surgeries in the past 2 years. Now, they have to go in and try to fix 2 Fractured Vertebrae's that are 90% Fractured. It's when you have to take certain meds, such as Steroids in High Quantities, it breaks down the Cartilage, Tendons, and weakens the Bones. But enough of crying about me, I believe that I would still carry a Tripod to use my Gimbal to hone in on those Birds when they swoop down to get a fish.

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Apr 21, 2022 20:17:19   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
They are not obsolete quite yet. There are a few instances where they may be necessary. For example, for long duration astrophotography, capturing multi-second waterfalls for the "blur effect", high magnification macro, etc. In the field, I HATE tripods but I do have an ultralight one I carry in my bag sometimes if I feel I may need it. I also have a heavier SLIK tripod I use mostly at home for macro. For 99.5% of my subjects, I don't need a tripod at all, and this is with lens stabilization alone. Whenever possible, I brace myself on something sturdy - pole, fence, wall, etc.

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Apr 21, 2022 20:20:20   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
srt101fan wrote:
Your comment: "It's important to remember that photography spans a wide gamut of image making situations and applications, so blind statements about tripod usage have to be qualified". How true it is. I would only add that the statement applies to almost any of the photographic generalizations we see on UHH....


Yep. Every application is different. Use the right tool for the job. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like nails.

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Apr 21, 2022 21:03:14   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
cmc4214 wrote:
My opinion: Tripods may not be as critical as they once were, but they are far from obsolete



Agree and this is from a guy who rarely ever uses a tripod.

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Apr 21, 2022 21:15:48   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Here's how my tripod helps when shooting birds through my garage window. If I plan on shooting in the afternoon I set the camera on a tripod with the lens attached. I put a Stetson on top of the camera and go about my business. I sometimes leave a radio playing.

By the time I settle in for shooting the birds I put on the hat and stay behind the camera.

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Apr 21, 2022 21:27:30   #
j.l.h
 
Is this a joke question? What is the context of use are you thinking about?This is another clickbate question

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Apr 21, 2022 21:37:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
j.l.h wrote:
Is this a joke question? What is the context of use are you thinking about?This is another clickbate question


GREAT random reply and unfocused follow up questions!!! Try the <quote reply> button in the future.

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Apr 21, 2022 22:36:54   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
srt101fan wrote:
No, Earnest, I'm afraid not "nuff said" . Age can't be the single determinant for the decision to use a tripod. More important is the type of photography you pursue, no?


Are you kidding me, you don't know me or nothing about me, my arms are weak, my hands are shaky, YES it has all to do with AGE. Not everybody ages the same, OK, Superman.

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