California No Longer Going To Hell...
Mar 23, 2022 10:31:46 #
rwww80a wrote:
Change outside AC unit to a heat pump....
Did you ever think that an AC unit IS a heat pump!
Just pumping the heat from inside the house to outside.
Did you ever think that an AC unit IS a heat pump!
Just pumping the heat from inside the house to outside.
Of course, but to function as a cold-to-hot heat pump, the flow is reversed with reversing valves.
Mar 23, 2022 10:33:33 #
Dannj wrote:
Can some one educate me please? I’ll admit to knowing less about electric cars than most 10 year olds but where does the power come from to generate the electricity to power the electric cars?
From coal fired generating power houses!
Mar 23, 2022 10:33:46 #
BusterCrabbe wrote:
You do NOT hate to say this. Please keep personal politics out of the discussion.
Yes please - let’s see if we can keep this timely topic out of the attic!
Mar 23, 2022 10:36:24 #
duffy021049 wrote:
From coal fired generating power houses!
Not that simple (or accurate)
Mar 23, 2022 10:39:07 #
mr spock wrote:
Then why do we keep reelecting the same people year after year?
Hate to say this but there's a man among our midst that's been in politics for 47 years without any real accomplishments. And we rewarded him with the presidency.
Nothing will change until we the electorate smarten up.
Hate to say this but there's a man among our midst that's been in politics for 47 years without any real accomplishments. And we rewarded him with the presidency.
Nothing will change until we the electorate smarten up.
Only the shareholders vote for the corporate boards who reward the CEOs and enrich the shareholders. Gas prices today are due only to corporate decisions to raise prices, "because they can." Record profits are not due to government action.
Mar 23, 2022 10:41:10 #
cbabcock wrote:
Only the shareholders vote for the corporate boards who reward the CEOs and enrich the shareholders. Gas prices today are due only to corporate decisions to raise prices, "because they can." Record profits are not due to government action.
👍👍 Exactly. Take a look at ExonMobile and Chevron’s stock price over the last 3 months. look familiar? Looks exactly like gas price increase over the same period. Think they’re getting hurt by the price of oil? Think again - good excuse for all the oil companies to raise prices and reap windfall profits.
Mar 23, 2022 11:08:44 #
robertjerl wrote:
I just wish the politicians and bureaucrats had to pay for their own gas. Maybe they would stay home and stop passing laws just to show how busy they are and how much they deserve their pay and perks.
👍👍👍. 6 month legislative session every other year. Perhaps they could concentrate on something important.
Mar 23, 2022 11:18:49 #
I have a lot of old friends that are spending their eternity in hell and one of them contacted me via our Ouija board yesterday to tell me that things were not as bad down there now and perhaps I may reconsider visiting him there.
He said that due to the rising price of fuel, the Devil has demanded that the temperature be turned down because the cost of keeping the fires going full-blast was 'killing him'.
It appears that we are not the only ones feeling the pains of high fuel prices..!
He said that due to the rising price of fuel, the Devil has demanded that the temperature be turned down because the cost of keeping the fires going full-blast was 'killing him'.
It appears that we are not the only ones feeling the pains of high fuel prices..!
Mar 23, 2022 11:19:24 #
TriX wrote:
I take your point(s), but seems to me the blame for these huge price increases belongs to the oil/gas companies.
Sorry but no. It's a simple supply and demand situation, caused by some very complex events. It isn't like you can simply open the faucet to increase supply. And if you could, to whose benefit? Oil companies are not private companies and if you have any kind of investments you are one way or another at least partially invested in O&G companies and gaining some indirect benefit.
Would I like to see lower gas prices? Yes, but not too low as that sets the scene for another wild price roller coaster.
I'd much prefer STABLE gas prices, to which one can adapt, at more or less any reasonable level. The rest of the world pays 2x to 3x US prices, and they manage just fine, better in many cases.
Mar 23, 2022 11:27:30 #
Mar 23, 2022 11:36:43 #
TriX wrote:
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Spot one, very well said!
What I'd really like to see is a move to raise fossil fuel prices on a continuous monthly basis by some tiny amount, but enough so the public fully gets the idea that is is time to switch to some other non- or at least less-polluting system. Say, raise gas tax by 2 cents per month or so.
That would be hugely unpopular but so what. Of course, we don't political will on any side to do anything that would risk their precious jobs, or cause the polls to drop.
Suppose for a moment that gas drop to a buck a gallon. Everyone, his mother & his dog would be out looking for vehicle regardless of mpg. At $10 a gallon there would be huge incentive to devise more economical vehicles and it would provide a hard push for alternatives for transportation and everything else that requires fuel.
I don't have kids so extreme pollution won't affect me, but I'm totally horrified by those that do have kids and grandkids not seemingly interested in what kind of physical world they are going to leave behind.
To anyone who doesn't think that human activity affects the earth: You might very well be right and maybe it's a lot of fuss for nothing, and we can all go back to max consumption of everything. But what if you are wrong?
PS I'm someone who has worked at the sharp end of the oil business for 40 years, and even I think enough is enough.
Mar 23, 2022 11:57:31 #
Just to interject a thought: CO2 is not a pollutant, it is the very food that green plants consume and some botanists are worried that the atmosphere does not have enough of it to supply the future needs of the Earth's plant life, given how much vegetation is required for food and to produce the oxygen we breathe. It is true that burning fossil fuels often produces other pollutants (we are getting better at combating that), but CO2 is not one of them. If environmentalists are interested in reducing the CO2 level, the answer is to plant more green vegetation.
Thinking we will all die in 20 years due to Global Warming caused by CO2 levels is not rational. Methane (CH4) is a much more potent "greenhouse gas" than CO2 and nature produces gobs of it through putrefication of vegetable matter.
Thinking we will all die in 20 years due to Global Warming caused by CO2 levels is not rational. Methane (CH4) is a much more potent "greenhouse gas" than CO2 and nature produces gobs of it through putrefication of vegetable matter.
Mar 23, 2022 12:05:43 #
Mar 23, 2022 12:13:23 #
TriX wrote:
I take your point(s), but seems to me the blame for these huge price increases belongs to the oil/gas companies.
Wrong and Wrong. We have a limited supply thanks to Democratic Party brains. Until we have fully fledged infrastructure hydrocarbons are not going away. Until then why would anyone place our self-sufficiency at risk. This single item will determine my vote in the fall elections. Short-sightedness is no excuse.
Mar 23, 2022 12:18:00 #
CO2 by itself is not a pollutant and is, as you so rightly say, necessary to support plant life - the issue is an increasing excess of CO2 which we are seeing. Certainly no shortage!
And yes, CH4 is a much greater issue.
No-one is going to die in 20 years due to GW - I don't think anyone ever said anything like that. But the world will definitely change and be a much less hospitable place, higher sea levels, more frequent & more vigorous storms etc., less food production.
Warmer weather, even by a small amount, means enormous areas in northern Russia will thaw releasing even more CO2, further accelerating the process.
The biggest difficulty is that our planet is an incredibly finely balanced ecosystem, very much like humans themselves.
In the long term, the earth will survive. Humans on the other hand, perhaps not so much.
And yes, CH4 is a much greater issue.
No-one is going to die in 20 years due to GW - I don't think anyone ever said anything like that. But the world will definitely change and be a much less hospitable place, higher sea levels, more frequent & more vigorous storms etc., less food production.
Warmer weather, even by a small amount, means enormous areas in northern Russia will thaw releasing even more CO2, further accelerating the process.
The biggest difficulty is that our planet is an incredibly finely balanced ecosystem, very much like humans themselves.
In the long term, the earth will survive. Humans on the other hand, perhaps not so much.
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