Restoration problem
Mar 8, 2022 15:01:19 #
Mar 8, 2022 15:01:27 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
This is my favorite of all the attempts so far. The skin tones and the greenery in the background are great. Some of the people who attempted it seem to have no idea what good skin tones are.
Yep, you're right about skin color but hey, not meaning to sound snarky but at least we tried to be helpful.
Mar 8, 2022 15:28:07 #
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Mar 8, 2022 15:32:14 #
delder
Loc: Maryland
Watching this process in Real Time is very educational while at the same time showing the limitations of our currently available processes.
Mar 8, 2022 15:55:57 #
Mar 8, 2022 15:57:51 #
fetzler
Loc: North West PA
gchapell wrote:
One click PSE22 colorize, choose the preview you like the best. FWIW
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Yep I think this is the best!!
Mar 8, 2022 17:02:35 #
Photoshopped (many different layers - neural filter, color brushes, luminosity adjustments, etc) from the B&W conversion posted above. no scratches fixed
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Mar 8, 2022 17:11:40 #
therwol
Loc: USA
davedyer wrote:
Photoshopped (many different layers - neural filter, color brushes, luminosity adjustments, etc) from the B&W conversion posted above. no scratches fixed
Well, here is the question again. What were the real colors before this colorization? I'll admit that this is a pleasing rendition, but some attempts have different colors, particularly the boy's shirt and even the woman's clothes. They're yellow in most attempts but white here. I did some reading about the neural filter, and it seems that it can apply colors that didn't exist in the original.
Mar 8, 2022 17:31:52 #
therwol
Loc: USA
Tom Kiernan wrote:
I have been trying to fix / restore the attached p... (show quote)
I have read all of the responses and seen all of the attempts to restore this picture. I find it interesting that some of the attempts have different colors, though they may be pleasing. I am going to stick with Vuescan for now. It's simple and very fast and I suspect the colors are more accurate, though I can't be sure without experimentation. Having said that, I want to show one more picture.
A friend of mine is photographing some of his dad's old slides RAW. He sent me one to try to fix. One thing that I must mention is that there is a "crop" function in Vuescan. The entire picture must be within the cropped borders without going over the borders. In other words, the picture has to be uncropped. If not, the color correction changes drastically. The first picture is a .jpeg version of the RAW file he sent me. I worked with the RAW file in Vuescan.
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The next two show the effects of the restoring of the faded colors and color correction on the next screenshot.
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Mar 8, 2022 17:43:10 #
PSE22 Colorize. Just a few clicks. Not perfection but a good base to tweek to your liking. Just a matter of cost/time benefit.
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Mar 8, 2022 17:49:31 #
therwol
Loc: USA
gchapell wrote:
PSE22 Colorize. Just a few clicks. Not perfection but a good base to tweek to your liking. Just a matter of cost/time benefit.
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In a lot of ways yours is a more pleasing picture, definitely warmer and brighter. The only issue I see is that you can't tell that the picture was taken in the fall. All of the trees are bright green. In my version, you can see at least a hint of multi-colored trees in the background. Which is better? It's a matter of taste, of course. Yours is more eye popping. Mine includes a dimension that is overlooked in the colorization process you used. I could have worked on my picture too, but I left that part to my friend who sent the original to me.
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Mar 8, 2022 17:50:30 #
IMHO - the separation of water and boulders elevates this version from therwol's version which shows no separation. So--if the insignificance of the boy's shirt is a problem, so must this be Imortant.
Mar 8, 2022 17:59:52 #
drrobins
Loc: San Francisco East Bay (Walnut Creek)
CC2020. Minimal time involved. Enhance>Auto Color Correction. Plus a little Layer>New Adjustment Layer>Levels. Nothing else. Th e Izod shirt color looks right here- I have the same color myself.
Mar 8, 2022 18:24:29 #
therwol wrote:
In a lot of ways yours is a more pleasing picture,... (show quote)
I am by no means a master and am not trying to be. I am curious to use the automation tools that are in PSE22. I often don't like the "smart" color/fix/light tools but have found the colorize tool pretty good and then you can refine it. One can spend hours of labor and still chase colors. This colorize tool gets you in the ballpark with the two samples given today. In the case of the river, I would call this extreme deterioration/color issues which it brought in pretty well.
Mar 8, 2022 18:35:23 #
therwol
Loc: USA
gchapell wrote:
I am by no means a master and am not trying to be. I am curious to use the automation tools that are in PSE22. I often don't like the "smart" color/fix/light tools but have found the colorize tool pretty good and then you can refine it. One can spend hours of labor and still chase colors. This colorize tool gets you in the ballpark with the two samples given today. In the case of the river, I would call this extreme deterioration/color issues which it brought in pretty well.
I don't disagree in any way with you. Your photo fix stands out in a more pleasing way. What's lost is the variation in color of the trees in the fall. Perhaps the next iteration of this software will be more sensitive to that.
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