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Feb 19, 2022 11:11:10   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
I don't sign up for paperless bills. I like to have a paper copy of the bills and if they didn't send it to me I would have to print it myself. And I don't have a lot of confidence in the Internet to not go down. However, I do pay the bills electronically through my bank. Some of the bills I get don't have the return envelope because I pay electronically.

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Feb 19, 2022 11:17:25   #
JBRIII
 
Dannj wrote:
I don’t think it’s hypocrisy. There’s more involved with processing mailed payments than the cost and timing of the paper and they still want to reach the folks who still like to get mail.


Also, there is more than enough evidence to support the concept that one part of a big company does not know what is going on in another part. So billing wants save and make money, while advertizing wants to advertize however it can. In both the US and GB, banks foreclosed homes then didn't know what to do with them. In both locations at least some realized it was better to leave people in them for upkeep.

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Feb 19, 2022 11:29:53   #
jtm1943
 
I've found that computers and the internet to be to unreliable to use for repetitive bill paying. Auto withdrawl is OK. To get their money, they'll never screw that up. Going paperless billing on a computer is just way to unreliable, and can cause missed payments.

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Feb 19, 2022 11:52:39   #
JBRIII
 
jtm1943 wrote:
I've found that computers and the internet to be to unreliable to use for repetitive bill paying. Auto withdrawl is OK. To get their money, they'll never screw that up. Going paperless billing on a computer is just way to unreliable, and can cause missed payments.


Because of timing issues with bill delivery, my wife has gone mostly electronic, then we found out that the bank's system failed for 5 days, no notices, just into the ether!

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Feb 19, 2022 12:37:12   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Okay, I hear the concerns. Accidentally, I have a solution. Accidentally?? Because of the unreliability of the USPS, I created an excel spread sheet. All companies on the left, and months along the top. When a bill came in, I'd check it off. And that is how I was able to identify the ones that never arrived. So, as I switch to Paperless, I use that to catch any online bill not received. It works.

I've had too many bills delivered to wrong addresses, or not delivered here at all. I'll never go back to paper bills.

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Feb 19, 2022 13:16:24   #
napabob Loc: Napa CA
 
BB4A wrote:
Ah, but the fun part is they also send you a reply-paid envelope with their latest garbage. Simply put the reply portion (left blank, or you can fill it out as M. Mouse @ Disneyland, if you feel the need to practice your calligraphy) into the reply-paid envelope and post it back to them. Eh Voila! You keep the USPS in gainful employment and the company paying it’s letter opening and scanning Agencies / Human Resources. Everyone’s a Winner… except the original mailer.

I liken this process to Brown Bitcoin Mining. You are enabling complex systems to do work that will end in sh*t.

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Ah, but the fun part is they also send you a reply... (show quote)


I do that too, I add as many other junk mailings that will fit in the envelope as well

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Feb 19, 2022 18:29:17   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Companies like us to get our bills online instead of in the mail. This saves them a lot of money. However, many of those same companies send me at least two pieces of mail every week advertising something. Hypocrisy? Yeah, I think so.


Ain't that the truth!

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Feb 19, 2022 18:51:50   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
All my regular bills are on auto pay. I will tell them to stop sending paper when they decide to make it worth my while. $$$ In the meantime the paper is used in the fireplace in the winter. When I live on LOng Island I got 1 dollar off every month. It isn't much, but it was an acknowledgement that I was saving them some money.

It took me about 15 years to use up the starter checks the bank gave me when I moved here.


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Feb 20, 2022 10:48:59   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
I don't sign up for paperless bills. I like to have a paper copy of the bills and if they didn't send it to me I would have to print it myself. And I don't have a lot of confidence in the Internet to not go down. However, I do pay the bills electronically through my bank. Some of the bills I get don't have the return envelope because I pay electronically.


Sorry Ed, but the same internet that sends your paperless bill is the same internet that transmits your electronic payment information.

But I do understand what you are saying. More and more companies are starting to send the e-bill directly to your bank so there is even less issues with email delivery to worry about.

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Feb 20, 2022 10:51:30   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
jtm1943 wrote:
I've found that computers and the internet to be to unreliable to use for repetitive bill paying. Auto withdrawl is OK. To get their money, they'll never screw that up. Going paperless billing on a computer is just way to unreliable, and can cause missed payments.



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Feb 22, 2022 09:47:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
johngault007 wrote:
Sorry Ed, but the same internet that sends your paperless bill is the same internet that transmits your electronic payment information.

But I do understand what you are saying. More and more companies are starting to send the e-bill directly to your bank so there is even less issues with email delivery to worry about.


When I pay online, I either use a credit card that gives me a rebate, or I have my bank send them a check. I was recently billed again for tywo medical bills I paid last month. I went online to my bank and printed both checks. Very convenient.

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