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Feb 14, 2022 21:48:10   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Might as well dodge the background, correct the colour on the skin tone, correct the "perspective" and frame it! Then sent it back to Facebook!


Do you have to make jist of everything?

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Feb 14, 2022 23:13:55   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Do you have to make jist of everything?


It is said that much truth is said in jest. U suppose to met "jest" not "jist" or "gist"???

What some find funny, others do not. What some find important, others may find to be trivial. Not everyone has the same perception of any given image. People can have different opinions, debate, discuss, and possibly come to some amicable conclusion or compromise or agree to disagree and still remain friends. This is a FORUM where folks can sit around a virtual table and exchange ideas and opinions and hopefully, not an arena for mortal verbal combat.

You don't seem to go along with some of these concepts and prefer instead to take to task everyone and anyone who does not agree with your point of view or opinion on anything. You are certainly entitled to your opinions and should be free to express them. You just seem to stimulate protracted, unpleasant, nasty arguments, engage folks in cussing competitions, and use character assassinations and name-calling when your arguments lose traction. You tend to pick apart every post and find picayune details to argue about.

I do not consider myself any kida privileged character around here- just a garden variety ordinary member. I have been on the forum for a long time and have seen some unpleasant posts and arguments in the past but never with such frequency and intensity. Perhaps some folks find this somewhat entertaining. I find it detrimental to the forum.

I apologize for any sarcasm or perhaps my droll sense of humour. It's just my coping mechanism that I employ instead of cursing, yelling, and insulting people. I will try harder to avoid your threads and posts and leave it to others to engage with you.

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Feb 14, 2022 23:56:46   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Might as well dodge the background, correct the colour on the skin tone, correct the "perspective" and frame it! Then sent it back to Facebook!


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SO IF YOUR REMARKS ARE NOT DROLL HUMOR, and you are going to correct the photo and send it to Facebook, kindly show us your improved result Shapiro. I am anxious to see it and many others more serious here are likewise---those who actually answer the OP's original question--here on a technical photo site.-------

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Feb 15, 2022 00:11:25   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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SO IF YOUR REMARKS ARE NOT DROLL HUMOR, and you are going to correct the photo and send it to Facebook, kindly show us your improved result Shapiro. I am anxious to see it and many others more serious here are likewise---those who actually answer the OP's original question--here on a technical photo site.-------


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And furthermore Shapiro---I resent your crack---assuming it was aimed at me---that I have been "cursing, yelling, and insulting people." Yet I REFUSE TO TAKE SOME SNARKY TROLL's taking my photo---re processing it, reducing the file from 3000kb to 9kb and saying it is full of defects. Maybe you just smile and say there are more opinions than one and take it. But I highly don't think so. So I will call out those who need calling out and not simply by passing by such underhanded snarkiness. As for you---you keep threatening to avoid any threads I make comments in--yet here you are again. Have I insulted you? Have I cursed at you? have I yelled at you. All the above have been leveled thus far on UHH at me as well as putting up my personal information in replies and suggesting a psychological defect. Should I level such back at you? I have not done any of that. But I will not take the late night snarky trolls without a reply. Or your "holier than though attitudes."------------

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Feb 15, 2022 00:16:48   #
srt101fan
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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And furthermore Shapiro---I resent your crack---assuming it was aimed at me---that I have been "cursing, yelling, and insulting people." Yet I REFUSE TO TAKE SOME SNARKY TROLL's taking my photo---re processing it, reducing the file from 3000kb to 9kb and saying it is full of defects. Maybe you just smile and say there are more opinions than one and take it. But I highly don't think so. So I will call out those who need calling out and not simply by passing by such underhanded snarkiness. As for you---you keep threatening to avoid any threads I make comments in--yet here you are again. Have I insulted you? Have I cursed at you? have I yelled at you. All the above have been leveled thus far on UHH at me as well as putting up my personal information in replies and suggesting a psychological defect. Should I level such back at you? I have not done any of that. But I will not take the late night snarky trolls without a reply. Or your "holier than though attitudes."------------
______________________________ br And furthermore ... (show quote)


OldSchool, put down the shovel and take a deep breath.

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Feb 15, 2022 01:05:02   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
srt101fan wrote:
OldSchool, put down the shovel and take a deep breath.


So, srt101fan, would you merely take a deep breath of Shapiro call you out as "cursing, yelling, and insulting people." Would you?-------huh, I bet not.------

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Feb 15, 2022 06:02:23   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
vanderhala wrote:
That's why I kept reading and I often like what you bring to the table (much more photography knowledge than me).


Like yourself - I find I learn something almost every day. If not, it's because I slept through it.

Your comments are both noted and most appreciated

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Feb 15, 2022 06:55:58   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
nervous2 wrote:
I suspect the response with which you are taking issue was proffered after considering the title question posed by the OP, "what's wrong with this picture" If such a question is posed, then honest efforts to provide an answer should not be considered to be nit picking. Just my thoughts.


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Correct:----This is a site for analysis. And the image regardless of how dear the message is a very poor example of the photographic technical art. That is fact. Questions of camera and venue restrictions have not been specified and should not be guessed at. One UHH wrote ["User ID wrote:
Altho I can see all the pointless nit picky issues Hogsters love to point out, there’s absolutely NOTHING wrong with ANY of those pix. Such Hogsters have no eye at all for photography, only a foolish hang up on tech issues. Many of the best photos I’ve ever seen exhibit noise, distortion, and color shifts. I’m not overlooking your “issues” due to journalistic constraints. I am referring only to aesthetics."]------So---go to an artist's blog UserID. ---This is a photo blog and photography is a craft with tools and hopefully a more perfect "product" after learning to become a photogapher like a craftsman. The topic, once again is what is wrong with this photo.

A photo doesn’t need to be perfectly flawless to be really perfect.

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Feb 15, 2022 07:59:32   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Wide angle lens and they could have dialed back the fill flash a little. Nothing terrible though.

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Feb 15, 2022 08:51:46   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
sergiohm wrote:
From the official Facebook of the New York Philharmonic

https://www.facebook.com/nyphilharmonic/photos/10161562799797293

I guess the photographer was using a wide lens which can be tricky to use for portraits since only the center is free of distortion, take a look at the woman to the left edge, the face is visibly distorted.


Yes, but it makes her smile nice and wide!

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Feb 15, 2022 09:02:23   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Picture Taker wrote:
The original Person asked the question, "brooklyn-camera" no need for personal attacks.
None intended, guess you are just one of those sensitive type of people we all love. Hope you didn't lose any sleep over my reply? Have yourself a very wonderful day.....

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Feb 15, 2022 10:07:41   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Yes it is technically far from perfect, but it is intended as a spontaneous snapshot of an event. Nothing more. As a result, I don't think this photograph needs a lot of discussion surrounding its technical faults, all of which will go completely unnoticed by almost everyone looking at it.

Yeahbut the OP "asked what's wrong with this picture?" Doesn't matter if his camera fell off the tripod and accidently fired in a wind storm, or it was the first picture the photographer ever took or he just didn't care. The answer to what's wrong with the picture is a lot, not nothing. The circumstances and purpose under which it was taken was never the issue, nor even mentioned.

I find it amusing people are falling all over themselves trying to explain why this far less than "perfect" picture is perfect.

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Feb 15, 2022 10:16:36   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
srt101fan wrote:
By what standards is "just about everything" wrong with this picture? Does "purpose" or "intended use" enter into your evaluation at all?

Purpose and intended use never entered the OP question, which is in the title of this thread.

You want to make up intended use and purpose, go ahead. Can I make up intended use before answering the question?

Perhaps he intended to present the picture in a photography class for students to analyze everything that's wrong, or maybe enter it in a photography contest because he thought it was "perfect?" I don't have a clue what the intended purpose was, but I know there is a LOT wrong with that picture.

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Feb 15, 2022 10:28:43   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
My previous post was simply to express my opinion that is it an unmitigated waste of time to over-analyze a casual snapshot that appeared in a Facebook post. Those who want to engage in doing that, have at it but it has no import relevance and accomplishes nothing.

I assumed that the image was not created by a professional photographer or an advanced worker. It was probably made in a small space in a backstage environment or in a crowded lobby after the performance. There was probably no time or space to change lenses and might have even been done with a cellphone or other fixed-lens camera. The image served its purposes- it got good "likes" and kind remarks on Facebook.

Then, the usual degree of trolling and unnecessary and frivolous arguments ensued. Of course, it is perfectly fine to discuss the highly technical issues on this for or comments on content or other non-technical remarks- neither is inappropriate. There is no rule that defines the exact nature of this forum within the context of photography. There are ample sections available for everyone's specific interest.

These folks, they know who they are, have to stop their Punch and Judy, Dumb and Dumber, Three Studies minus One, activities on this forum. They patrol the threads and fine some picayune items to expand on exaggerate and extemporize on and the combat begins. It's bloody stupid! It seems that the Admn. does do not care about this ongoing nonsense as long as it increases the volume of "clicks". Perhaps there's an audience for this kind of idiocy- am I the only complaint?
My previous post was simply to express my opinion ... (show quote)

By participating in the "nonsense" you are part of the audience.
Yes the success of this forum depends entirely on volume of "clicks."
This specific forum is for anything related to photography, and it would seem "what's wrong with this picture?" is photography related.

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Feb 15, 2022 10:31:07   #
Tomfl101 Loc: Mount Airy, MD
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Certainly the "fun spontaneity" of the photo would not have been lost with the correct focal length lens. Portraits are best with roughly a 90mm lens considering a 35mm format. Not a 20mm wide angle.----


Well yes a 90mm lens would be great if you happened upon this scene with know one else in the foreground and you were standing 30-40 feet away. But this picture was most likely taken up close with a wide angle because there were tons of people within a few feet of the group. It also appears another photographer had their attention to the right. You use the best focal length you have for the given situation.

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