Does anyone care about a built in flash anymore?
Feb 2, 2022 09:42:37 #
It's sometimes nice to have a tiny amount of fill light, especially for eyes, when you are out and about, and don't want to be carrying all sorts of bits and pieces.
Feb 2, 2022 09:43:59 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
As the saying goes, you use the camera that you have. Thus you use the flash that you have. Personally I think that they are under utilized, with many situations out there that could benefit from a little fill. It’s just a matter of recognizing when the right opportunity presents itself.
Feb 2, 2022 09:51:40 #
If I am going to grab my camera...just as easy to grab the flash at the same time...so i don't miss it.
It's also a way to keep the camera bodies more streamlined and lighter.
It's basically old real estate that has lost its location value due to a upwardly mobile neighborhood.
It's also a way to keep the camera bodies more streamlined and lighter.
It's basically old real estate that has lost its location value due to a upwardly mobile neighborhood.
Feb 2, 2022 10:08:34 #
I agree that builtins can be handy, especially for firing other flashes remotely. The issue, and the reason they are not included on the better bodies, has to do with weather sealing. Best of luck to all.
Feb 2, 2022 10:25:34 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
Bison Bud wrote:
Seems like new camera bodies with a built in flash... (show quote)
I having them on the compact digital cameras I have (Canon G9, Lumix ZS100) and the ones on my Pentax K5 and Fuji X-E2S have proved their worth many times.
Stan
Feb 2, 2022 10:47:13 #
I prefer a built in flash. Most of my photography is with family and family events. Fill flash is what it is best for and when used correctly I can get a good shot in less than ideal lighting that is worth saving. Like and use it on my D7500 and especially my Fuji X100V which meters the light really well. If the D780 would have had it, I would have purchased it.
Feb 2, 2022 10:48:54 #
Feb 2, 2022 10:55:46 #
cjc2 wrote:
I agree that builtins can be handy, especially for firing other flashes remotely. The issue, and the reason they are not included on the better bodies, has to do with weather sealing. Best of luck to all.
Another reason they quit including them is that the hot shoe needed to be beefed up (reinforced physically) to support things like audio adapters for video recording. My Lumix GH4 is plenty weather sealed, but has a built-in pop-up flash. However, the GH5 and later do not have a flash, but do have a much sturdier shoe mount for the XLR Microphone Adapter DMW-XLR1 and other accessories.
Feb 2, 2022 11:05:00 #
Definitely! Lack of a pop-up flash is a deal breaker for me. I have external flashes, but when I want to throw a little more light onto something, I don't want to go upstairs and dig one out and connect it. The pop-up or built-in is ideal.
Feb 2, 2022 11:42:35 #
I guess I'm still old school, remembering the old film SLRs which did not have a built in flash. I got along fine without them back then and seldom use the built in now. I do have a few strobe flash attachments that I use now and then but usually try to have them off camera with a corded connection or a light sensitive trigger.I truly would not miss the pop up flash but would miss the hot shoe.
Feb 2, 2022 12:03:41 #
Bison Bud wrote:
Seems like new camera bodies with a built in flash... (show quote)
Yes, agreed. A built-in flash is good when you're faced with the unexpected.
Feb 2, 2022 12:14:47 #
I do occasionally use the built in flash on my Fuji X100V on sunny days to get rid of shadows on faces. This camera has a leaf shutter, enabling me to flash sync up to 1/4000 of a second. Nice feature to have.
Feb 2, 2022 12:45:49 #
I do use the build in camera flash. I do have various camera brand and non brand flash, but I still depend on my camera's built in flash when I an not bringing a flash. I do have a mini Lumiquest brand flash diffuser that I can attach to the built in camera flash and I get to avoid those direct hard flash lights on the subject.
Feb 2, 2022 13:00:27 #
I don't believe flagship cameras ever had them because of weather sealing issues.
Their use as an effective flash is fairly limited due to power and location, but their most effective use on some cameras was as a commander for off camera flash, and even that has been obviated by the move to radio controlled flash.
Having said that, I've given a Canon 20 D (6mp) which has one to my 5 year old Grandson who loves it and in auto mode the little flash pops up when the situation calls for it, and 'saves' a lot of his pictures. So for that purpose, it works well. But you probably won't see them going forward on anything but P&S type cameras.
You CAN bounce them in a pinch- (a little make-up mirror works), but a small external flash on an off camera cord always works better.
Their use as an effective flash is fairly limited due to power and location, but their most effective use on some cameras was as a commander for off camera flash, and even that has been obviated by the move to radio controlled flash.
Having said that, I've given a Canon 20 D (6mp) which has one to my 5 year old Grandson who loves it and in auto mode the little flash pops up when the situation calls for it, and 'saves' a lot of his pictures. So for that purpose, it works well. But you probably won't see them going forward on anything but P&S type cameras.
You CAN bounce them in a pinch- (a little make-up mirror works), but a small external flash on an off camera cord always works better.
Feb 2, 2022 13:18:18 #
Amadeus
Loc: New York
Just learned recently (embarrassed) that my 80D built in flash can be controlled, lower output, which can be used as fill in. I think that’s a handy feature when in a situation where you wouldn’t carry your flash.
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