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Jan 24, 2022 13:24:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
one_eyed_pete wrote:
Out of curiosity I did a little math. Over the last 10 1/2 years our friend Jerry has averaged starting 3.7 topics and made over 34 posts every single day for approx. 3832 days. That's why he's #1.


The alternative is getting out of this chair and doing housework.

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Jan 25, 2022 05:48:44   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have Zoom running now for the women of the local painting group. I find it interesting that there can be twenty women talking to each other without one talking over another. I would wait for an opening in the conversation, but there is no opening. It is constant talk, with one person speaking and then another. It's the same when meeting in person at the Legion Hall. I seldom say anything there because I would wait for a lull in the conversation. There is no lull. This seems like the type of thing that would need some kind of electronic control - constant talk without anyone talking over the other.
I have Zoom running now for the women of the local... (show quote)


If I have to wait for an opening and then interrupted Im just leave the room.

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Jan 25, 2022 09:54:07   #
sourdough58 Loc: Maine
 
I am the same listening most of the time. I wait for an opening that never comes, and by the time I get an opening the conversation has moved on 2 or more times, I think its my hearing I am unable to detect the minute openings to jump in.

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Jan 25, 2022 09:55:41   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
Management training taught me about Myers-Briggs "introverts" versus "extroverts." The chief difference in a group setting is that the introverts (like me) will generally add to the conversation only if they have something of value to offer while the extroverts will verbally offer a non-stop stream of whatever happens to be drift into their minds.

A white grad student was traveling with a Native American and felt uncomfortable with prolonged silences. When he mentioned it, the Native American responded, "You white people. Just because a thought comes into your head, it doesn't mean it has to come out of your mouth."

Extroverts should take that advice to heart.

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Jan 25, 2022 10:07:52   #
Billbobboy42 Loc: Center of Delmarva
 
I have two friends; one female, one male; that have verbal diarrhea. The only way I can get a word in is to jump in with a forced interruption. But I barely get a sentence finished before they do the same. The male, a high school classmate and close neighbor, stops by once a week or so for a chat. He starts talking before he even sits down. He can talk an hour on details concerning his cat or what chores he has done. Like I am interested in his personal trivia. It’s rare he ever asks me a question.
Obviously, these two are not listeners. I can never finish a point unless it can be done in one sentence.
You might ask why I put up with such friends. The female, also a neighbor, has a heart of gold and will practically do any favor I need. She has come through a number of times when I needed help.
The male classmate and I are both on our reunion committee and we both do volunteer duty at our local museum. So, I need to tolerate him.

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Jan 25, 2022 10:16:01   #
sourdough58 Loc: Maine
 
Billbobboy42 wrote:
I have two friends; one female, one male; that have verbal diarrhea. The only way I can get a word in is to jump in with a forced interruption. But I barely get a sentence finished before they do the same. The male, a high school classmate and close neighbor, stops by once a week or so for a chat. He starts talking before he even sits down. He can talk an hour on details concerning his cat or what chores he has done. Like I am interested in his personal trivia. It’s rare he ever asks me a question.
Obviously, these two are not listeners. I can never finish a point unless it can be done in one sentence.
You might ask why I put up with such friends. The female, also a neighbor, has a heart of gold and will practically do any favor I need. She has come through a number of times when I needed help.
The male classmate and I are both on our reunion committee and we both do volunteer duty at our local museum. So, I need to tolerate him.
I have two friends; one female, one male; that hav... (show quote)


I think you will find that they are lonely.

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Jan 25, 2022 10:51:21   #
Canisdirus
 
Zooming with twenty women and Jerry thought he could get a word in edge wise...

You are going up against pros Jerry...

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Jan 25, 2022 12:26:02   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have Zoom running now for the women of the local painting group. I find it interesting that there can be twenty women talking to each other without one talking over another. I would wait for an opening in the conversation, but there is no opening. It is constant talk, with one person speaking and then another. It's the same when meeting in person at the Legion Hall. I seldom say anything there because I would wait for a lull in the conversation. There is no lull. This seems like the type of thing that would need some kind of electronic control - constant talk without anyone talking over the other.
I have Zoom running now for the women of the local... (show quote)

It the 1970’s I joined Digital Equipment Corporation as a senior consultant. Two years later I became a manager and went through their two year management development program. The first course they sent me to was a two day course on listening skills.
It has served me well my entire life.

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Jan 25, 2022 13:35:10   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have Zoom running now for the women of the local painting group. I find it interesting that there can be twenty women talking to each other without one talking over another. I would wait for an opening in the conversation, but there is no opening. It is constant talk, with one person speaking and then another. It's the same when meeting in person at the Legion Hall. I seldom say anything there because I would wait for a lull in the conversation. There is no lull. This seems like the type of thing that would need some kind of electronic control - constant talk without anyone talking over the other.
I have Zoom running now for the women of the local... (show quote)


Be very, very careful and tread lightly---you could get your eyes scratched out in the blink of an eye.

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Jan 25, 2022 13:50:04   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
The best advice I ever heard about conversing with others, "God gave us two ears and one mouth, showing that we should listen twice as much as we speak."

That said, I have great difficulty hearing when more than one person is speaking at the same time. Family gatherings are a real problem because there are usually three or four people speaking at once and with the tinnitus I have coupled with high frequency hearing loss, my hearing aids are less than sufficient to separate all the sounds into intelligent conversation. Therefore, I usually just sit and try to listen or quietly get up and leave the room.

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Jan 25, 2022 15:44:59   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
Women are wired differently than men. Logical vs Emotional.



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Jan 25, 2022 17:20:16   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
The best advice I ever heard about conversing with others, "God gave us two ears and one mouth, showing that we should listen twice as much as we speak."

That said, I have great difficulty hearing when more than one person is speaking at the same time. Family gatherings are a real problem because there are usually three or four people speaking at once and with the tinnitus I have coupled with high frequency hearing loss, my hearing aids are less than sufficient to separate all the sounds into intelligent conversation. Therefore, I usually just sit and try to listen or quietly get up and leave the room.
The best advice I ever heard about conversing with... (show quote)


You are not alone, I could have written your second paragraph. Theoretically the hearing aids could solve that problem and in some cases they do. In other cases, like ours, (in layman's terms) the brain cannot correctly process the sounds because many of the connectors connecting ear sound signals to the nerves taking them to the brain from the ear are ruined and the sounds are not getting to the brain in a usable form. These vital connectors are shot and we are SOL. Or, at least, that is what I understand from the mumbo-jumbo explanations I have received from the medicos and reading about the condition.

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Jan 26, 2022 06:27:36   #
Doddy Loc: Barnard Castle-England
 
I can see why 'Men only' clubs sprang up, a bit of peace and quiet (and men talk) perhaps, but they are dying out as women legally challenge their rights to join.

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Jan 27, 2022 09:16:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
If I have to wait for an opening and then interrupted Im just leave the room.


You're assuming they would notice if you weren't there.

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