PaulG
Loc: Western Australia
gym wrote:
Read your original post again. It was not aimed at constructive criticism but served only as a backhanded commentary on the quality of one photographer's work. I don't care if Laylafan is a "she", or a "he", or an alien. Your post was what it was. As far as the "hijacking", one could use that term as a descriptive for your entire thread. You may have the last word. I'm out.
My original comment was NOT aimed at any individual, more the quality of posts in this section which I feel are pretty woeful (most times). That was made abundantly clear several times but obviously passed your inattentive eye by. Your consequent derogatory personal remarks and criticism of my work (considering it's not even the topic here) seems bizarre, to say the least. Stay a little more focused next time to avoid straying from the true issue. Anyway . . . all the best for 2022!
gym
Loc: Athens, Georgia
PaulG wrote:
My original comment was NOT aimed at any individual, more the quality of posts in this section which I feel are pretty woeful (most times). That was made abundantly clear several times but obviously passed your inattentive eye by. Your consequent derogatory personal remarks and criticism of my work (considering it's not even the topic here) seems bizarre, to say the least. Stay a little more focused next time to avoid straying from the true issue. Anyway . . . all the best for 2022!
You said earlier that your post was aimed at all the “guff” posted in this section. But one of the objectives of this site is to help people whose work is still in the “guff” stage. The vast majority of postings here are from people who want to improve their skill levels in a favorite hobby. Across the various boards on this site, you will find photos that reflect a need for improvement by the photographer. If you are REALLY accomplished and you feel that a particular board has few if any examples of what one SHOULD aspire to, then post some outstanding work for them to try to emulate.
Certainly, a world class photographer who has placed his work in Vogue and Playboy has something that can stir the imagination of lesser mortals.
PaulG
Loc: Western Australia
gym wrote:
You said earlier that your post was aimed at all the “guff” posted in this section. But one of the objectives of this site is to help people whose work is still in the “guff” stage. The vast majority of postings here are from people who want to improve their skill levels in a favorite hobby. Across the board, you will find photos that reflect a need for improvement by the photographer. If you are REALLY accomplished and you feel that a particular board has few if any examples of what one SHOULD aspire to, then post some outstanding work for them to try to emulate.
Certainly, a world class photographer who has placed his work in Vogue and Playboy has something that can stir the imagination of lesser mortals.
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I've posted plenty of images in this section. And given numerous suggestions and opinions - mission accomplished - so I'm not sure what you're point is. Everyone's tastes are different and the validity of their views will vary depending on experience/qualifications. You clearly don't like my work, which is fine. But rest assured, that's not going to cost me any sleep. Anyway . . . I thought you were going to quietly go away?
gym
Loc: Athens, Georgia
PaulG wrote:
I've posted plenty of images in this section. And given numerous suggestions and opinions - mission accomplished - so I'm not sure what you're point is. Everyone's tastes are different and the validity of their views will vary depending on experience/qualifications. You clearly don't like my work, which is fine. But rest assured, that's not going to cost me any sleep. Anyway . . . I thought you were going to quietly go away?
Quietly, yes, until you decided to use your "last word" with your own ad hominem attacks. You suggested that I am making personal attacks on you. Not so. I have no reason to even have an opinion on you OR your work. But since you have posted some of your offerings here, along with others who seek critique, I have offered you mine. As I said in the post above, your overall criticism of the image quality on this board is in reality a criticism of the overall reason this board exists. It's not JUST for the accomplished photographer. There are a few who frequent this board and most of us of lessor ilk are glad they have decided to share their work with us. You, however, in your rant about the overall quality of the posts here, seem to be trying to look down on some of those who seek some positive critique in order to gain a bit of improvement in their work. My comments have nothing to do with you personally or your work. How good your work is should be a subject on which others will opine. It has everything to do with your attitude.
I see no reason to further clutter this thread - OR this forum - with the detritus into which these responses have deteriorated. If you have anything else to say, you may do so in a private message.
PaulG
Loc: Western Australia
gym wrote:
Quietly, yes, until you decided to use your "last word" with your own ad hominem attacks. You suggested that I am making personal attacks on you. Not so. I have no reason to even have an opinion on you OR your work. But since you have posted some of your offerings here, along with others who seek critique, I have offered you mine. As I said in the post above, your overall criticism of the image quality on this board is in reality a criticism of the overall reason this board exists. It's not JUST for the accomplished photographer. There are a few who frequent this board and most of us of lessor ilk are glad they have decided to share their work with us. You, however, in your rant about the overall quality of the posts here, seem to be trying to look down on some of those who seek some positive critique in order to gain a bit of improvement in their work. My comments have nothing to do with you personally or your work. How good your work is should be a subject on which others will opine. It has everything to do with your attitude.
I see no reason to further clutter this thread - OR this forum - with the detritus into which these responses have deteriorated. If you have anything else to say, you may do so in a private message.
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For a "supposed" retired uni professor it surprises me you so easily miss the point. No one's putting themselves above anyone else. Simple fact: a forum is a medium to exchange ideas and viewpoints. Get over it and move on for goodness sake!
It seems to me that if one is tired of Layla you can simply scroll past the post rather than exerting energy complaining after you visited the post.
why screw up Layla's thread with the 2 of you's petty lil piss off contest .
go start ya own piss n moan thread .
gym
Loc: Athens, Georgia
dooragdragon wrote:
why screw up Layla's thread with the 2 of you's petty lil piss off contest .
go start ya own piss n moan thread .
If you want to play, then do it via private message. No one wants to see your s##t here either.
Laylafan69 wrote:
I saved the pm you first sent me about Layla, but out of respect to the forum I will not publish that perverted garbage. I first came here to show my reimagined new polaroids and I will leave if my time here is irritating people. I've been polite and respectful...if you had a beef with me you could have pm'd me and we could.ve worked it out.
I kind of like the adventures of Layla.
You don't have to open them, you could just cruise by. I think the photos are great. Show some of your photos.
If you don't like Laylafan's contributions just move on. No one is looking for your negative criticism. I sometimes ask questions because I honestly am looking for a solution to a problem that I may be having. Well, here comes some knucklehead chastising me for asking a question that someone had asked a month ago. Well, I didn't see it. EXCUSE ME. Some of the photos that I see are out of focus or have a slanted horizon, chopped off appendages, etc., etc., etc. There are some professionals here and there are a plethora of amateurs (of which I'm one). I've been a member for a few years and look forward to the daily UHH. But I have noticed that there are some among us that have a tendency to me negative or stick their noses in where they don't belong and we really don't care to hear it. Adding nothing, but maybe intimidating someone so that they're hesitant to ask questions in the future. If the Guggenheim is having a Georgia O'Keefe exhibition and you don't like her work...YOU DON'T GO. The Wadsworth in Hartford Ct. had a Mapplethorpe exhibition a few years back. Well, it received a lot of negative reviews. I thought the guy was brilliant (with maybe just a couple exceptions). My point is: Have a little compassion for our friends in the UHH community. For the most part...for me anyway...I enjoy the forum. Let's keep it a positive experience. Can we?! By the way naysayers did you happen to see Janet a couple of days ago (Dec 30th) from Laylafan 69? Keep 'em coming LF69!
Layla Fan I for one, look forward to the photos of Layla. Keep up the good work.
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