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Nov 14, 2011 10:59:15   #
birdie
 
I'm trying again to send this photo



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Nov 14, 2011 11:17:49   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
WildBill wrote:
I believe it is possible to layer 2 photos without having to by software to make an HDR image. I am not much of an editor but maybe someone can verify or reject this idea?


I have done that often with sunsets. I just put the camera on a tripod and take several exposure, like you would if you were doing HDR then you just layer them and erase what you don't want.

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Nov 14, 2011 11:38:16   #
liebgard
 
Really? Is the pasture so important? I find it distracting from the lovely garden setting, including the 2 inviting white chairs. The green pasture addition takes away from the green lawn and fence composition.

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Nov 14, 2011 11:40:31   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
I would do as LeeG says. Take two pictures, one exposure for the garden in the shade, then another with the exposure set for the bright field and then crop the two together if you can.

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Nov 14, 2011 11:47:45   #
birdie
 
It is there to deal with. the picture looks chopped off if you crop the field out. It takes the house too and that is worse than the white field. The photographer is not happy with the white field, so she wants to find a better way. it looks like she has several options to try now. But now it is fall and will look altogether different, maybe better with the sun coming from a different place.

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Nov 14, 2011 12:06:57   #
liebgard
 
right; you cannot crop it out. I mean, perhaps the field could be colored something muted to contrast with the green lawn and the brown fence, maybe bronze Fall colors

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Nov 14, 2011 12:09:42   #
boncrayon
 
You are soooo right, Nighthawk that the gamut of the lens is often not what you would prefer after the moment of the click. The professional is keen on lighting and does not rely on after effects of the frame. Nature offers its moments with natural light. New high end equipment afforded by their bank account seem to think the camera makes them an instant professional. It's only where the camera is pointed, is set correctly and is considered with alternate direction, natural light, bounce reflection on subject timing and multiple frames with people (who talk and change expressions of their faces) to grab the perfect expression, framing and environment.

I know many local and nationally recognized photographers that use their "skills" and deliver stunning portraits and landscapes from their long-term experience. They are a "professional group" who deliver the frame for its admiration of the viewer. The ART of the professional is taking a hit on newly affordable super cameras that the buyer feels makes him/her a professional. Let natural and professional studio light speak for for the masters, but also let those who grab light in a casual sense, relish in the moment of their unprofessional glee.

Long live the professionals in a new market of technology!

Now that I've ranted, please do not take offense!

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Nov 14, 2011 12:15:59   #
angel99 Loc: NC
 
robert-photos wrote:
Leaf Peeper wrote:
I have a Canon A620 Digital Camera (yes, I know it's old) and enjoy taking photos of my garden and anyone else's that I happen to enjoy. This photo has a problem and I need help. Beyond the fence is a nice, green pasture, but my photos always white it out. I'm wondering what the trick is to ensure the distance comes out as clear in color as the foreground. I probably had the camera set for "landscape" or "foliage" as those are two settings I use a lot. The sun was shining on the pasture. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Canon A620 Digital Camera (yes, I know it... (show quote)


I suggest taking the photo on a cloudy day or this is where subtle HDR comes into play if you want to try it.
Essentially you have exceeded the dynamic range capabilty of your camera taking a single photo and exposing everything properly.
If you set your camera on a tripod and take one picture exposed for your yard and another exposed for the field....changing only the shutter speed to achieve the proper exposures.....and you combine the photos in your editor of choice that has layer capabilities......and mask or erase the field from the yard photo....you should achieve your desired result. You also can take multiple exposures and use and HDR program or PS to merge those photos.
Hope that helps.
quote=Leaf Peeper I have a Canon A620 Digital Cam... (show quote)



What about white balance. Was it set for outdoors?

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Nov 14, 2011 12:36:01   #
Willy Loc: Alaska
 
I would recommend trying several approaches.
First, take the same photo at dawn and dusk when the light is a bit more even.
Second, take the photo on an overcast day for the same reason as above. Be sure to keep the sky out of the photo when its overcast.

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Nov 14, 2011 12:46:05   #
NIGHTHAWK Loc: Virginia
 
You are so right Boncrayon could not have said it any better.
I know I may make some people mad but so be it.It make's
me want to jump up and down when all you here is if you had used the rule of 3's and if you don't know the rule of 3's
google it, that is not a rule it's a guide and it is not used
that much.If people would just previsolize the picture
before they put the camera up to their eyes they would
know what the photo would look like before it's taken,and
you can crop the photo when you take it by using your
zoom in or out.Most of the time you want need any editing
if you think and know what you want in your photograph.
im thru preaching just my 2 1/2 cents worth.Nighthawk

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Nov 14, 2011 12:52:01   #
birdie
 
I think this does not address the real problem, but I must admit that not seeing the field there is a good idea, and confines the yard picture to the yard.



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Nov 14, 2011 13:12:21   #
robert-photos Loc: Chicago
 
angel99 wrote:
robert-photos wrote:
Leaf Peeper wrote:
I have a Canon A620 Digital Camera (yes, I know it's old) and enjoy taking photos of my garden and anyone else's that I happen to enjoy. This photo has a problem and I need help. Beyond the fence is a nice, green pasture, but my photos always white it out. I'm wondering what the trick is to ensure the distance comes out as clear in color as the foreground. I probably had the camera set for "landscape" or "foliage" as those are two settings I use a lot. The sun was shining on the pasture. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Canon A620 Digital Camera (yes, I know it... (show quote)


I suggest taking the photo on a cloudy day or this is where subtle HDR comes into play if you want to try it.
Essentially you have exceeded the dynamic range capabilty of your camera taking a single photo and exposing everything properly.
If you set your camera on a tripod and take one picture exposed for your yard and another exposed for the field....changing only the shutter speed to achieve the proper exposures.....and you combine the photos in your editor of choice that has layer capabilities......and mask or erase the field from the yard photo....you should achieve your desired result. You also can take multiple exposures and use and HDR program or PS to merge those photos.
Hope that helps.
quote=Leaf Peeper I have a Canon A620 Digital Cam... (show quote)



What about white balance. Was it set for outdoors?
quote=robert-photos quote=Leaf Peeper I have a C... (show quote)


Although the picture is a bit cool as far as white balance is concerned it is not objectionable as it imparts the feeling of a cool, shady, garden backyard. As in someone elses post, I'm not sure that detail in the field is necessary except that because it is bright my eye is drawn toward it.

Changing the white balance will not overcome the blownout field. The camera is simply not capable of recording the sunny field and shade garden both properly exposed.

That being said, a graduated ND filter is not a useful solution since the field does not cover the entire horizon and portions of the photo (the spruce, lower branches of the tree to the left, the doorway to the right) would be under exposed.

That only leaves a software solution available...HDR or multiple layered photos.

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Nov 14, 2011 13:20:35   #
Edmund Dworakowski
 
As I stated earlier, GRADUATED NEUTRAL DENSITY FILTER.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/graduated-neutral-density-filters.htm

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Nov 14, 2011 13:26:21   #
Bullfighter
 
Other than the white pasture, I would de-saturate the blue cast that is distorting the colors in the shaded areas.

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Nov 14, 2011 13:46:39   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
I don't like it but here it is. Tried to leave the chairs.



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