General Covid vaccination vibe in your country? (Page 4): Some confusion I believe when comparing figures. John's figures above are based on total population, but those below 12 years...

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Nigel7 Loc: Worcestershire. UK.

John N wrote:

I just had a quick look and a rough idea of U.K. f... (show quote)

Some confusion I believe when comparing figures. John's figures above are based on total population, but those below 12 years of age aren't eligible. Figures for population aged 12 and over are 87.4% first dose, 79.7% second dose and 17.9% booster or 3rd dose.

There are still around 5 million Brits who have not yet had any vaccination. It's reported that over half of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated. It beggars belief.

blackhound Loc: East Stroudsburg, PA

Canisdirus wrote:

In the US the CDC (a medical dept. of the govt.) has already stated categorically two things...
1.) The vaccines do not prevent the recipient from contracting Covid.
2.) The vaccines do not stop the recipient from transmitting Covid to others.

So the question is...why do we care if others are not vaccinated...it does nothing to protect others...just the folks who get the vaccine...and only if they contract Covid.

You have a right to refer to an authoritative source but you do not have the right to misrepresent their position.

The CDC states: "COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing most infections. However, like other vaccines, they are not 100% effective." The CDC goes on to say "Studies so far show that vaccinated people are 8 times less likely to be infected and 25 times less likely to experience hospitalization or death than unvaccinated people. Vaccines remain effective in protecting most people from COVID-19 infection and its complications.

You say "It does nothing to protect others" is not correct. I suggest that you visit the CDC website and stop relying on Twitter for your false and misleading information.

Daryls Loc: Waco, TX

Probably for the same reason Red State governors make POT growing and smoking legal - people's choice! That is what freedom is all about; being free to make your own choices as to what is best for you and your circumstances.

In America, you are free to make stupid and really dumb choices. It happens all the time; even long before we became the United States of America! The caveat here is that your free choices do not interfere with other people's free choices.

PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place

A country with some good sense!

Don

Canisdirus

wide2tele wrote:

Someone with an unpreventable illness may get sick... (show quote)

If we go down that slippery slope...you might want to rethink that position.

Canisdirus

blackhound wrote:

You have a right to refer to an authoritative sour... (show quote)

That is old info.

The CDC did say that...but now have stated the vaccines no longer can do that.
Which makes me suspect...it ever was able to do it.
They just had to adjust to results...

carlberg

Just keeps you from dying, that all.

carlberg

Canisdirus wrote:

In the US the CDC (a medical dept. of the govt.) has already stated categorically two things...
1.) The vaccines do not prevent the recipient from contracting Covid.
2.) The vaccines do not stop the recipient from transmitting Covid to others.

So the question is...why do we care if others are not vaccinated...it does nothing to protect others...just the folks who get the vaccine...and only if they contract Covid.

Vaccines keep you from dying, that's all.

wide2tele Loc: Australia

Canisdirus wrote:

If we go down that slippery slope...you might want to rethink that position.

You realize all this conspiracy stuff is about $$$? Millions of them.
It's not the pharmaceuticals, it's the people pocketing from spreading the Covid BS.

Even when Covid is over, there will be another major conspiracy. There will be something that will threaten you. Something you will have to fight against. People will be telling you lies.

Covid really opened up a big business. It'll never end now.

ruzbynik Loc: Victoria BC

Canisdirus wrote:

In the US the CDC (a medical dept. of the govt.) has already stated categorically two things...
1.) The vaccines do not prevent the recipient from contracting Covid.
2.) The vaccines do not stop the recipient from transmitting Covid to others.

So the question is...why do we care if others are not vaccinated...it does nothing to protect others...just the folks who get the vaccine...and only if they contract Covid.

Sadly it is the relentless propaganda of the vaccine pushers. Previously well regarded and decent citizens are now subjected to all sorts of silly name calling because they have not participated in the great gene therapy experiment.

blackhound Loc: East Stroudsburg, PA

As of Nov. 5, 2021 the CDC website says, "Studies so far show that vaccinated people are 8 times less likely to be infected and 25 times less likely to experience hospitalization or death than unvaccinated people. Vaccines remain effective in protecting most people from COVID-19 infection and its complications.

Check it out at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness/breakthrough-cases.html

wide2tele Loc: Australia

This is accurate.

cwp3420

srron wrote:

As I've said before, it's all about who you choose... (show quote)

srron Loc: Courtice,On.

andesbill wrote:

You are the problem. Nothing you say is accurate.... (show quote)

None of this disproves anything, try dropping the logical fallacy.

Schoee Loc: Europe

srron wrote:

None of this disproves anything, try dropping the logical fallacy.

Best thing about the vaccine is you get a free Microsoft Office download. . . Straight into your head!! Lol