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Oct 31, 2021 20:59:08   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
bsprague wrote:
"You would think B&H would be above this kind of action."

Of course they are! Something went wrong on a $240 transaction two years ago. Do you really think B&H made a corporate policy decision to commit fraud?


If they didn't, they need to step up to the plate and make it right -- bottom line!

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Nov 1, 2021 07:23:28   #
hippi Loc: Sedalia MO
 
robertjerl wrote:
Folks from some things I have read it is entirely possible that B&H was scammed by a distributor who sold them knock offs as genuine iPods and that was two years ago. The real Apple Products only have a one year warranty so you wouldn't get anything done for them either. The problem seems to be finding someone who will work on the knock offs. There are bound to be people who will repair things like that. But at the present time with the supply chain shortages, esp chips, parts may just not be available.

My personal opinion is we need to get back to US made products and components as much as possible. And of course other countries like Japan that we can count as friends and partners - not China who are at best a major rival and at worst an enemy.

I would rather pay a bit more for a US made product that has good support and is more durable than a cheap Chinese product. The only exception I can think of is something meant for "use once and discard" where quality and performance are not very important. I have bought cheap tools for a once in a lifetime repair and then given them away or to the metal recycler. But for tool types that are used regularly I buy good quality brands, maybe not what a pro who uses them daily would get, but fairly good quality. When I was a kid and spent time on my Grandparent's farm I used hand tools originally purchased generations ago (the farm was in the family since 1791).
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Nov 1, 2021 07:52:20   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You've been offered a possible solution almost immediately after your initial post. You seem more content to whine about it than take a positive action and possibly solve you issue.
--Bob
Domtom999 wrote:
I believe they were just released around that time and supplies were short. I order all my camera equipment from b and h so it would make sense to order from them if they had stock. In answer to your question do i think they as a corporation would comit fraud my answer is no. I’ve bought from them for 40 years and until now never had a problem. That’s quite a good track record. I’m just having trouble believing they sold me something as a legit Apple product that apple would not service now i feel cheated and that’s the problem.
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Nov 1, 2021 08:13:04   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
I agree John, my business goes elsewhere. I do not want to be scammed at B&H.

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Nov 1, 2021 09:53:21   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
bsprague wrote:
I'm going to follow this topic. It is always entertaining to see someone try to use a public forum to punish or get even with a big, national company. There is always a missing piece in the puzzle. For example, was it a "special deal" on a "gray market" version. (I think I've seen B&H do this with some lenses and they are clear to explain the reason for the low price.)

I've all but stopped buying from B&H. It used to be that I could save some sales tax in exchange for long shipping to the west coast. I'm now getting better delivery times and shipping prices from Amazon and WalMart! The last camera I bought was from Costco which has a 90 day satisfaction return guarantee.

What was the price you paid compared to the price in an Apple store at the time? Were the airpods deeply discounted?
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I agree with you on this. Especially the last sentence.

Chuck

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Nov 1, 2021 09:57:27   #
Rick from NY Loc: Sarasota FL
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I tried to apply for a PayBoo card, and was denied, in spite of a lifetime of good credit. I have heard the same complaint from others here. B&H puts all the blame on the bank, but it is their bank which supplies the card, and have cost them my business.


It’s not B&H’s bank, it’s Synchrony Bank which is a bank that provides branded credit card services for many different businesses who don’t want to administer their own cards. I have several branded Synchrony cards and while Synchrony’s customer service is less than stellar, if you were rejected for the Payboo card, perhaps you might want to clean up your credit. Blaming BH for your rejection is ridiculous.

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Nov 1, 2021 10:02:59   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
One problem as I see it is that a knockoff is not worth nearly what the real deal is worth. Also the real thing would probably still be working and not even need repair unless the problem is a result of damage.

Chuck

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Nov 1, 2021 10:14:06   #
Domtom999
 
rmalarz wrote:
You've been offered a possible solution almost immediately after your initial post. You seem more content to whine about it than take a positive action and possibly solve you issue.
--Bob


If you are talking about contacting the higher ups at b and h I agree it is a good idea and did take that action right away thanks to the help of another reader. I am waiting for a response right now. As far as the rest of your comment, i guess I’m just not as smart as you.

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Nov 1, 2021 10:23:11   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
B&H may not have been aware that they were counterfit when they were originally sold, in fact may not have known till now. A large number of retail firms have been hit with counterfit products over the last few years, even the biggest (Amazon, Walmart and many many others, large and small). Will be interesting to see if they do something to help the situation, especially in the "public eye". I would not directly fault any of the sellers, this sort of thing usually is the result of bad characters in the middle of the supply chain, distributors who may have been unaware as well. Hopefully you will end up in a happy place. As many may realize now, the "supply chain" for all products is a long and winding road, sometimes a bit bumpy.....

I'd bet most major manufacturing and distribution companies have to deal with this more often than you would imagine.

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Nov 1, 2021 10:32:36   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Dalek wrote:
I agree John, my business goes elsewhere. I do not want to be scammed at B&H.


You can be the additional victim of a large distributor being scammed, I doubt that B&H has ever intentionally resorted to "scamming folks", as it is the worst business model anyone could use - self defeating..... Any place you buy (and I mean any seller, from the largest to the smallest) of mass produced/mass distributed merchandise could unintentionally sell you knockoffs.

Also, there are factories in many countries that manufacture products (same items, different "seller" labels) that are distributed by many different companies with differet names, none of those would qualify as "knockoffs" or "fakes".

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Nov 1, 2021 10:34:13   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
olemikey wrote:
B&H may not have been aware that they were counterfit when they were originally sold, in fact may not have known till now. A large number of retail firms have been hit with counterfit products over the last few years, even the biggest (Amazon, Walmart and many many others, large and small). Will be interesting to see if they do something to help the situation, especially in the "public eye". I would not directly fault any of the sellers, this sort of thing usually is the result of bad characters in the middle of the supply chain, distributors who may have been unaware as well. Hopefully you will end up in a happy place. As many may realize now, the "supply chain" for all products is a long and winding road, sometimes a bit bumpy.....

I'd bet most major manufacturing and distribution companies have to deal with this more often than you would imagine.
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I seriously doubt they did know, but it is still their responsibility, as the ultimate seller, to make it right. Given B&H’s excellent reputation in the community, I’d be surprised if they didn’t, but as suggested, you need to involve upper management.

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Nov 1, 2021 10:39:07   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
B&H, IMHO, is a great company. Perhaps not 100% perfect, but close. Folks who bash them, like the OP, without first going up the chain-of-command and giving them a fair chance, are doing no one a favor. I just wish all the companies that I've dealt with were even almost as good as B&H. It's amazing how the first person to post a response got more traction with B&H just by asking, and she wasn't even the client. Has the OP followed-up with her? Then we have the poster mad because he/she was turned down for a card and he blames B&H. The bank IS NOT owned or controlled by B&H and the issue is most likely the poster's credit. All of this just continues to amaze me. Best of luck to all.

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Nov 1, 2021 10:50:46   #
Waxhouse Loc: Tampa Via Philadelphia
 
If B&H was scammed by a distributor they should make good for it and go after the distributor. I want to see how this ends.

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Nov 1, 2021 10:54:05   #
Waxhouse Loc: Tampa Via Philadelphia
 
If B&H was scammed by a distributor they should make good for it and go after the distributor. I want to see how this ends.

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Nov 1, 2021 10:59:59   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Waxhouse wrote:
If B&H was scammed by a distributor they should make good for it and go after the distributor. I want to see how this ends.


We're talking about an item over two years old and out-of-warranty. I'd like to see you do what you're asking! Best of luck.

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