John Hicks
Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
To JerryC41 every mobile phone I have ever owned I installed a micro sd card every printer if I wanted to could install generic ink cartridges, my Photo printers used Claria ink cartridges which I continued to buy because I want the advantage that Clarks inks give
The only computers I have heard of where you cannot upgrade are ones from Apple, but if you buy an Apple product you know that before you buy them.
n3eg
Loc: West coast USA
quagmire wrote:
Just bought three colors and black for my Epson for $29.00 tank printer.
I have a HP tank printer that I bought at Goodwill for $7. It had full ink tanks too. Why? Someone couldn't figure out that you need to snap the cover down on the fake print cartridges.
Thanks for the information. I agree with you !00%. Businesses are trying to run your life, if you use their products.
I think its disgusting how the government allows these things to happen.
I just noticed that I still have 3/4" of ink remaining in the bottles.
John Hicks wrote:
To JerryC41 every mobile phone I have ever owned I installed a micro sd card every printer if I wanted to could install generic ink cartridges, my Photo printers used Claria ink cartridges which I continued to buy because I want the advantage that Clarks inks give
The only computers I have heard of where you cannot upgrade are ones from Apple, but if you buy an Apple product you know that before you buy them.
Yes, I agree. However, from what I've heard online, phone companies are following Apple's lead in terms of non-replaceable batteries and lack of a memory card slot.
I would be happy to join in. We had a Canon mega-tank printer that set us back $320 and it work great for 2.99 years. Then an error code came up that said call Canon, so we did. It seems the ink pad was full and the printer was now useless and cannot be fixed. It was trashed and I was out the cash.
Hello Jerry, and others, The reason for all this product repair problems fall on the U.S. Congress. In 2008 Congress failed to renew the "Right to Repair" legislation. That legislation encompasses everything from cars, to wash machines, printers, cell phones and other imported, and domestic items. I own 2 BMWs, but the two are not the same model, nor year. The 2008, has full documentation for home repairs, the 2009, has no documentation at all. Repair manuals after 2008 do not exist. This is also the cut off for cell phone repair manuals, printer repair manuals and most Auto manuals. I've done research about how automobile companies are working full time to lock out not only individuals from doing simple maintenance, but even local repair shops. GM is developing key type plugs to keep you from changing simple parts. Porsche is working on keying spark plugs. Tesla has a system that when their cars break down, the car will call a number, and Tesla will deliver you a replacement car while they repair your Tesla. Imagine what it will be like when the U.S. shifts to all electric autos.
happy sailor wrote:
The printer at the heart of this "lawsuit" is a less than $100 at Walmart where the guy purchased it and who would have thought that printers need ink to operate. Yes scan and fax don't use ink but it is bundled package. What these stupid lawsuits will cause is makers to make separate devices for each function and sell you three instead of one. The ink for this printer is $15 for the black and $20 for the colour cartridge.
And somehow this is worthy of a $5 million dollar lawsuit plus all the associated costs to defend and try it!
what a waste of court time
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Frivolous lawsuits are creating higher prices for the consumers, do you ever think companies will not pass their losses to the buyers?
dbjazz wrote:
Yes, it seems that, in the not-too-distant future, we will own nothing but our homes (perhaps)...
I do own the clothes on my back, and the cameras in my bag. Although the mortgage on my house was paid off over 20 years ago, I still pay rent to the town in the form of property taxes, which they then squander on useless public projects.
Ioannis wrote:
Frivolous lawsuits are creating higher prices for the consumers, do you ever think companies will not pass their losses to the buyers?
On the other hand, do we let companies get away with whatever they want? My V600 doesn't need ink to scan. Neither does my Epson all-in-one printer. The term "all-in-one" means the device has several functions contained in one housing. There is no reason to require ink for scanning except to make you buy ink. "Frivolous" is in the eye of the beholder. The courts decide what cases to allow, and this one is still pending. If the courts decide to give the plaintiffs their day in court, then they don't consider it frivolous.
Businesses are taking advantage of us, and we are going along with it.
jerryc41 wrote:
On the other hand, do we let companies get away with whatever they want? My V600 doesn't need ink to scan. Neither does my Epson all-in-one printer. The term "all-in-one" means the device has several functions contained in one housing. There is no reason to require ink for scanning except to make you buy ink. "Frivolous" is in the eye of the beholder. The courts decide what cases to allow, and this one is still pending. If the courts decide to give the plaintiffs their day in court, then they don't consider it frivolous.
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The way I feel about keeping companies honest it is by not buying their product or their services, I do research before I make a large purchase just to avoid future problems and loss of my money.
Unfortunately, this is not limited to Canon. I sell this type of equipment, and to my knowledge, this has been common to all inkjet printer manufacturers since at least the last 5-7 years. HP led the charge on this in the middle of the last decade, and all the other manufacturers have followed suit. For example, there are microchips in the HP cartridges, and they have to appropriately handshake with the printer (and in some cases, with HP itself) regarding status (this is why you can't get reliable refilled HP cartridges anymore).
jerryc41 wrote:
I suspect these "problems" are ways for Canon to generate income.
I have Canon and HP printers, and I try to buy generic ink. It doesn't always work. I had to return the last batch for a refund. I haven't tried the new one yet. It's hard to justify a $50 cartridge when I can get three for $15.
Several years ago, DW called me at work. Our printer, which we had bought on sale was out of ink. Linny went to get more ink,
which was more expensive than the still-on-sale printer! Guess what we bought!
--Rich
RiJoRi wrote:
Several years ago, DW called me at work. Our printer, which we had bought on sale was out of ink. Linny went to get more ink, which was more expensive than the still-on-sale printer! Guess what we bought!
--Rich
Funny. That price differential has become a sad joke.
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