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Sep 24, 2021 11:38:14   #
JBRIII
 
Dannj wrote:
Tnx. I’ll give that a try. The card’s most likely backed up. I’m mostly concerned with the mixed messages the camera is giving me.


Computers, and the camera counts as one here, only provide error messages they are programmed to give. We had new computers with so much disk memory that some programs reported "Not enough memory for installation". The programs could not accept input above a certain value, so reported it as too little, think of it as a smaller version of the year 2000 problem. So unless camera can tell too little from none, it probably reads it as no card present. Of course card may have problem that causes camera computer to really see no card there, but first explanation is more likely. As to no picture on card, may just be an old format camera can't read, but computer software can. I had a version of Powerpoint, that would show a file in the Powerpoint preview window, but report file did not exist if you tried to open it fully. Two versions were suppose to be same one purchased on two new computers a few months apart!

As others have said, try to read card on a computer or several, if you have them, get the files off if possible, then store or throw out card. Unless you have some old device that can only use such small cards, it is useless today. It is very possible that the programs required by newer cameras (overhead) are larger than the total space available on this card. Like trying to put Windows operating system on a single old 360 KB, 5.25" floppy, just AIN'T gona fit.

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Sep 24, 2021 12:12:04   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Reformatting will render any file on that card unreadable.
—Bob
Dannj wrote:
It’s an old card…and I know how small it is. I just wanted to find out what’s on it. I’ll try reformatting on my pc.

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Sep 24, 2021 12:13:59   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
I don't think the 8mb card EVER had any photos from the K50.
It would probably be only 1 shot.
Just try reading the card in a couple of different computers 🖥 to see if you can find anything.
You will also be able to see HOW the card was formatted.
It may be MP3 music files as well,
Or text.

The smaller cards have some value for use in legacy equipment that cannot write to the larger capacity cards we use today.

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Sep 24, 2021 12:36:31   #
Dannj
 
[quote=delder]I don't think the 8mb card EVER had any photos from the K50.
It would probably be only 1 shot.
Just try reading the card in a couple of different computers 🖥 to see if you can find anything.
You will also be able to see HOW the card was formatted.
It may be MP3 music files as well,
Or text.

Thanks, elder.
You’re right about no photos from the K50. Best I can figure is the card is likely left over from my Panasonic DMC FZ 50 which is at least 15 years old. I re-set the K50 to it’s lowest setting…5m…and I was able to take 1 shot which maxed out the card.

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Sep 24, 2021 12:40:33   #
User ID
 
GLSmith wrote:
For that card to work properly formatting is the right path to take....however do NOT format in a PC or MAC, leave it in the camera & go through the menu & let the camera software format it properly.....It goes without saying, this might be a good time to update any firmware if it is needed.

Don’t be ridiculous ... read it and toss it.

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Sep 24, 2021 12:44:56   #
User ID
 
RichieC wrote:
Wow- Your post is very wrong... However you are welcome to ignore it.

You re-format after every time you take photos off of it. Reformatting t goes through and anylises the entire drive and maps out bad sectors, so the camera computer avoids them, removes artifacts etc., every drive has bad sectors out of the box.

But don't take my word on it- here is what manufacturers say: Maybe they don't know what they are talking about either- but I'll go with them.



Nikon

Memory cards need occasional maintenance, too. Every Nikon digital camera offers an in-camera format option. Formatting the card in-camera not only deletes the pictures, it creates a new directory on the card. This can help to avoid problems that might prevent the card from being read by your computer. Some people format after each download, once the photos are safely transferred to the computer. Others choose to do it once a month. The important thing is to do it regularly.


Olympus

Memory cards should be formatted to maintain top performance. They should only be formatted using the camera—never format using a computer as it may render the card unreadable by the camera.

Formatting clears the directory structure of the card and removes any artifacts that might be left behind by erasing. Repeatedly using the ERASE and ERASE ALL camera options and not formatting can result in a buildup of file artifacts that may eventually cause the card to fail. Be sure to download and save any images on the memory card before formatting

Sandisk (refers to Mac)
When using a memory card, it is recommended to reformat the card in the camera instead of formatting it through your computer
Wow- Your post is very wrong... However you are we... (show quote)


Doesn’t matter what all those camera makers say. They don’t make cards.

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Sep 24, 2021 13:02:59   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Glad we got to the bottom of this!

IF you plan to take burst shots or Video Clips, you might look for a FAST card as well. Also can speed file transfer to your computer .

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Sep 24, 2021 13:15:25   #
gouldopfl
 
[quote=Dannj]8 MB JVC SD card in Pentax K50:

A 8MB wouldn't hold 1 picture with today's cameras. My 30 mp file is 30 mb's so a 8mb card would not hold 1 picture. The smallest cards I have are 32 Gb but most are 64 to 128 gb

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Sep 24, 2021 13:40:22   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
Dannj wrote:
I understand that. I’m trying to determine why, in shooting mode, the camera tells me the card is full and in viewing mode it says there’s no image available.


Messages make perfect sense. No images on the card that the camera recognizes for the latter. Card too small to fit an image from the current file size that camera will produce - hence the camera says the card is full.

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Sep 25, 2021 05:36:51   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
There is a lock switch on the side of the card. Unlock the card. Locked the card is write-protected.
https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1102/~/sd%2Fsdhc%2Fsdxc-memory-card-is-write-protected-or-locked

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Sep 25, 2021 08:10:57   #
Dannj
 
dpullum wrote:
There is a lock switch on the side of the card. Unlock the card. Locked the card is write-protected.
https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1102/~/sd%2Fsdhc%2Fsdxc-memory-card-is-write-protected-or-locked


Doesn’t matter. Same results either way.

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Sep 25, 2021 08:17:24   #
Dannj
 
delder wrote:
Glad we got to the bottom of this!

IF you plan to take burst shots or Video Clips, you might look for a FAST card as well. Also can speed file transfer to your computer .


Me too! Thanks. All my other cards are “up to date”. The card in question was buried in its case in a pocket in my bag. I had no idea how long it had been there (years😳?) and wanted to find out what was on it…which led to my post…which led to all the advice😳.

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Sep 25, 2021 13:07:10   #
Johnnyt Loc: keizer Oregon
 
If you can try to transfer the photos(if they are any) from the card to your computer. Then reformat the card. I doubt you can put any photos from the camera to the card because 8mb is smaller than any image that the camera can produce. I suggest not using that card and investing some money in a 32 Gb(or bigger) Card as the 8Mb card is essential unusable. Good luck!

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Sep 25, 2021 13:09:48   #
Johnnyt Loc: keizer Oregon
 
If you can try to transfer the photos(if they are any) from the card to your computer. Then reformat the card. I doubt you can put any photos from the camera to the card because 8mb is smaller than any image that the camera can produce. I suggest not using that card and investing some money in a 32 Gb(or bigger) Card as the 8Mb card is essential unusable. Good luck!

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Sep 25, 2021 16:42:51   #
no12mo
 
Dannj wrote:
8 MB JVC SD card in Pentax K50:

When I try to shoot, the camera tells me the card is full.
If I try to view the card the message is “no image available.
This happens if the card is locked or unlocked.

Any suggestions as to why I’m getting these mixed messages?
Tnx


Only thing I can think of is that the files are incompatible with your viewer. Did you try looking at the contents with Windows Explorer to see if it recognizes the contents?

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