Does anyone have a 400 prime Canon lens and an IBIS camera (R6 or R5). Does it help with stabilization?
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
Does anyone have a 400 prime Canon lens and an IBIS camera (R6 or R5). Does it help with stabilization?
The Canon stuff is all newer and surely better than my 400mm and my FF IBIS bodies. IBIS is what makes my 400mm useful below 4-digit shutter speeds, so the latest from Canon should surely be worth the price of admission.
IBIS steadies the EVF image as well. At least half the time I’m focusing by the 10X MF magnifier. At 10X it’s shaky but can be focused. Without IBIS it’s often too shaky for 10X focusing. A steadier EVF image also helps with pinpoint AF targeting using BBF.
Thanks --- my first wildlife lens. I hate to get rid of it. Just needs some stabilization.
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
Does anyone have a 400 prime Canon lens and an IBIS camera (R6 or R5). Does it help with stabilization?
The outside chance the Canon 400 f/5.6 prime would have stabilization with an IBIS body is why I bought my first Sony body with IBIS, an a6500 back in 2018. I did an impromptu and sloppy test with the two and put a thread on here about the experience. I would hazard a guess that if a Sony body with IBIS and a Sigma MC-11 adapter would provide stabilization, a Canon body would also. Read closely my narrative. If you don't you may come away as a couple of others with the idea that I'm total crackpot, which may be true on some level in other instances but not this one. The most important comment is made by uhh member dsmeltz at the bottom of the first page so be sure and read what he said. The url is
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-512458-1.html
Thanks for the thread. The 400 prime is a light lens and that's why I bought it.
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
Thanks for the thread. The 400 prime is a light lens and that's why I bought it.
The only "gotcha" with my setup is that you have to go into the stabilization menu and tell the camera what lens you have mounted and since it is a prime and doesn't change as a zoom might, you only have to do that once in a session. I am not familiar with the features on a Canon mirrorless so I have no idea if you have to manually tell the Canon body what lens is mounted or not.
I have the Canon 400 prime with an r5. Yes, it does a good job with stabilization. I am able to get handheld shots which I was not able to do with the 7dMark II. Am switching to the rf 100-500 which provides several stops more stabilization (the lens has stabilization plus the stabilization from the r5), and allows me to zoom which was a limiting factor when shooting with the 400. I used the 400 with and without a 1.4 extender and autofocus was relatively quick.
olemikey
Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
IBIS is a wonderful thing!! My older Sony's (A37/A58) will both work very well with older non-stabilized (and some quite large) lenses, producing surprisingly good shots (IMO). I have adapters (Auto and manual) for all sorts of mounts, and the Sony IBIS works with everything I've thrown at them....wish all bodies/makes had it!! The CIZ (Clear Image Zoom) is a lot of fun to work with as well....yes it only produces JPEGs, but they are mighty fine JPEGs that process pretty well, and beats the heck out of tele-converters (in general). It is more difficult to try to use a TC and CIZ together, but with a really sharp lens and a sharp TC, and stability, it will work, experimentation is required to yield best results. As with many of these things - YMMV.
olemikey wrote:
IBIS is a wonderful thing!! My older Sony's (A37/A58) will both work very well with older non-stabilized (and some quite large) lenses, producing surprisingly good shots (IMO). I have adapters (Auto and manual) for all sorts of mounts, and the Sony IBIS works with everything I've thrown at them....wish all bodies/makes had it!! The CIZ (Clear Image Zoom) is a lot of fun to work with as well....yes it only produces JPEGs, but they are mighty fine JPEGs that process pretty well, and beats the heck out of tele-converters (in general). It is more difficult to try to use a TC and CIZ together, but with a really sharp lens and a sharp TC, and stability, it will work, experimentation is required to yield best results. As with many of these things - YMMV.
IBIS is a wonderful thing!! My older Sony's (A37/A... (
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Here's to doing most of the work in the camers(JPEG) and not sitting in front of a computer for hours!
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
Does anyone have a 400 prime Canon lens and an IBIS camera (R6 or R5). Does it help with stabilization?
Been useing this lens with my R5 for over a year. Very happy with the IBIS as my previous body was the 5D Mark 3. Have to be careful when using canon 2x extender but getting humming birds hand held at 800mm equivalent. Since the R5 came along my tripod rarely gets used, which is a blessing when hiking for wildlife! Just got the Canon 100/500 zoom this summer and even at my advanced age (75 ) that has become my no tripod, walkabout lens.
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
Thanks --- my first wildlife lens. I hate to get rid of it. Just needs some stabilization.
Since yours doesn't have IS, you must either have the EF 400mm f/5.6L USM or the very early EF 400mm f/2.8L USM. All other Canon 400mm lenses have had IS.
Everyone is different, but an R5 or R6 with IBIS should give you at least 3 or 4 stops worth of assistance.
If you had an IS lens it would be even better... possibly as much as 7 or 8 stops worth of assistance. Canon has set the cameras up so that IBIS can work with IS to make for this additional assistance. (Sony doesn't do that... When you use one of their OSS lenses on one of their cameras with IBIS, you have to select one or the other... not both).
If you are planning an R6 or R5 purchase anyway, you definitely should hang onto and try the 400mm lens on it via adapter. It will probably work even better than it did on an Canon DSLR. For one, lenses on mirrorless don't need calibration, the way they do on DSLRs. That's because the focus sensors are embedded directly in the mirrorless camera's image sensor... on the same plane. So there's no way for the lens to get out of calibration! (Lenses still can need internal optical calibration... but that's another matter.)
Alan,
I recently up graded from my canon 7d to the canon r5 and use the canon 400mm f5.6 The r5 stabilizes the lens without the lens bing an IS. I loved my 400mm so much I didn't want to give it up. Great for bif and hand held.
amfoto1 wrote:
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........... Canon has set the cameras up so that IBIS can work with IS to make for this additional assistance. (Sony doesn't do that... When you use one of their OSS lenses on one of their cameras with IBIS, you have to select one or the other... not both).
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RE: Sony.
That is not true. Lens and body IS do work in combination.
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