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Sep 6, 2021 13:18:44   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
DaveJ wrote:
I need to upgrade from my Laptop. I am going to a desktop. Very confusing on what I really need to run a speedy system. I am leaning towards a Dell 8940 at Micro Center. They have some with a Intel I7 11th Gen 2.5 GHZ chip.
I assume that chip is good enough as it seems to also be in many higher priced systems.
On Graphics Cards, it seems in my target price range(1500-2000) the Nvidia RTX 3060 12GB DDR6 or the RTX 3060 Ti 8GB DDR 6 are options. Comments?
Ram is 32 GB DDR 4 2933 supplied in 4@8GB. Is this enough, too much or ?? Comments?
1 TB Boot NVMc m.2 seems good
1TB SATA HDD 7200 RPM seems good.
Motherboard is a Intel H470 chipset. I know nothing on motherboards. Comments?

I do not do much video. I do a little 1 or 2 minute clips, sometimes put together 3 or 4 clips. I have shot 4K with my Canon R5 , but video speed is not my foremost wants. My old laptop is "good enough" for this , so I assume a new Desktop with above specs would be much better.

Any advise, comments ect. appreciated.
I need to upgrade from my Laptop. I am going to a... (show quote)

A good gaming desktop will work just fine for photo and video processing. Your specs look very good BUT I'd up the size of the HDD to at least 4TB; however, this depends on the number of pictures/video you have.

bwa

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Sep 6, 2021 14:32:25   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Gene51 wrote:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/


Also https://www.originpc.com

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Sep 6, 2021 15:08:26   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I,’d just add that while companies like Puget are a good choice, having your neighborhood computer store assemble your PC for a charge may not be the best decision unless you specify name brand components as they may use their generic “house brand” unless you specify otherwise. Also, it’s really a trivial task to assemble a PC anymore with simplified drive mounting. Attach the MB (5-8 screws), attach the power supply (4 screws), plug in the DRAM, SSD, and CPU, plug in the cables from the MB to the case, and that’s it except for loading the OS and Aps. Takes no more than an hour for the HW and a couple of hours for the OS. Saves several hundred $ and you’ll actually get to choose all your components and learn something about this strange machine that you likely rely on daily.

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Sep 6, 2021 15:19:17   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
DaveJ wrote:
I need to upgrade from my Laptop. I am going to a desktop. Very confusing on what I really need to run a speedy system. I am leaning towards a Dell 8940 at Micro Center. They have some with a Intel I7 11th Gen 2.5 GHZ chip.
I assume that chip is good enough as it seems to also be in many higher priced systems.
On Graphics Cards, it seems in my target price range(1500-2000) the Nvidia RTX 3060 12GB DDR6 or the RTX 3060 Ti 8GB DDR 6 are options. Comments?
Ram is 32 GB DDR 4 2933 supplied in 4@8GB. Is this enough, too much or ?? Comments?
1 TB Boot NVMc m.2 seems good
1TB SATA HDD 7200 RPM seems good.
Motherboard is a Intel H470 chipset. I know nothing on motherboards. Comments?

I do not do much video. I do a little 1 or 2 minute clips, sometimes put together 3 or 4 clips. I have shot 4K with my Canon R5 , but video speed is not my foremost wants. My old laptop is "good enough" for this , so I assume a new Desktop with above specs would be much better.

Any advise, comments ect. appreciated.
I need to upgrade from my Laptop. I am going to a... (show quote)

That is a fine set up. Just make sure it is able to be upgraded hard drive wise which I'm sure it can be switched out. I have purchased 4 desktops from microcenter. Great outfit. The graphics card is fine. You will love the boot time of the nvme m2 hard drive. I personally don't like Dell. I buy the Power spec computers which is micro center house brand. Zero blotware that way.

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Sep 6, 2021 15:37:19   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
I have an I-7 9th Gen with an 8GB graphics card and 32 gig of ram. I looks like your on the right track but the 12 GB graphic card may be more than you need. I have no issues with speed when using Topaz.

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Sep 6, 2021 15:39:50   #
eeengineer Loc: Madison, WI
 
If you are going to store your photos and videos on the computer you will want either a different computer or a nas. That dell can only have 2 2.5” hard drives. You should have at least 2 large hard drives for storage. I would recommend 2 10TB in mirror setup.

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Sep 6, 2021 16:48:59   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
DaveJ wrote:
Intel i7 11700(2.5 GHZ)
Don't know SSD manufacturer.
On SSD, prebuilt system and that is what is in it.
500 watts
2 open m.2 slots.
Link to system if interested.
Thanks for commenting.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/637044/dell-xps-8940-gaming-pc-platinum-collection


Who directed you to this computer? A store salesman or did you decide on these specs yourself? You certainly do not need a 3060 video card unless you are a fanatical game player. An I7 with only 2.5 Ghz is not a good one! You should look for a CPU with at least 3.4 Ghz and make sure the model number of the CPU has the letter "k" following whatever number it has. The ones with the letter "k" are unlocked and with the proper motherboard will overclock themselves when they detect a demand for more CPU performance, and they do this automatically. Stay away from Intel motherboards; look at MSI and ASUS motherboards. Notice the review number of 3.7 out of 5.0 in the review section on the page for that computer at Micro Center. That 3.7 rating indicates a computer with poor performance. I hope you do more searching for better specs.

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Sep 6, 2021 16:53:13   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 


A lot of bad obsolete info. Burn this list!


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Sep 6, 2021 17:43:30   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
Well, Thanks ALL! I have read each comment and looked at almost all of the links provided. Lots of good info. I really appreciate every comment. As expected, I'm almost overwhelmed by the info. I do have a budget, so the custom builds at approximately 2X the cost of the other guys is out of reach. I'm going to digest all this for a few days. My laptop is working fine except very slow on Topaz and some slow things at times on PS and LR, but not real bad. Hopefully some others have read and learned from this thread. Again, thanks. Keep them coming.

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Sep 6, 2021 17:44:57   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
AirWalter wrote:
Who directed you to this computer? A store salesman or did you decide on these specs yourself?


I have not talked to a salesman. If bad, it is all me!!!


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Sep 6, 2021 17:48:07   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
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AirWalter wrote:
Who directed you to this computer? A store salesman or did you decide on these specs yourself? You certainly do not need a 3060 video card unless you are a fanatical game player. An I7 with only 2.5 Ghz is not a good one! You should look for a CPU with at least 3.4 Ghz and make sure the model number of the CPU has the letter "k" following whatever number it has. The ones with the letter "k" are unlocked and with the proper motherboard will overclock themselves when they detect a demand for more CPU performance, and they do this automatically. Stay away from Intel motherboards; look at MSI and ASUS motherboards. Notice the review number of 3.7 out of 5.0 in the review section on the page for that computer at Micro Center. That 3.7 rating indicates a computer with poor performance. I hope you do more searching for better specs.
Who directed you to this computer? A store sales... (show quote)


Just a few comments:

There’s a lot more to CPU performance than clock speed. If you look at Intel Xeon professional CPUs, you’ll notice that they are generally fairly low clock speed. Instead, look here at actual performance benchmarks: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

No disagreement with the “K” designation if overclocking is your thing.

Regarding MBs, as I said earlier, I had driver issues with the last Intel MB I tried. Sent it back for an Asus, which has been running flawlessly for at least 7 years.

I am not a fan of water cooling (noise, reliability, leaks) for personal computers, although it is becoming a standard for HP enterprise servers.

No need to worry about the number of drive slots as your storage should generally be SSD, preferably m.2 NVME plugged directly to the MB.

As I stated earlier, I’d much prefer to purchase the parts and assemble my own. Manufacturers like HP or Dell tend to skimp on power supply capacity, expansion slots, etc.

If you’re planning on implementing a high speed internal network and/or a NAS, then consider a MB that supports 10 GigE Ethernet, which is quickly becoming affordable.

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Sep 6, 2021 18:03:51   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
I would an AND chip over Intel either a 12 core of 16 core running at 5 ghz, choose mother board that will take up 96 GBP of memory and a 1tb ssd with a couple of 8 tb hard disks for data .
On the mother board a couple m2 sockets and twin graphic cards joined as one a 1.5 kw power supply , also get a couple of 8tb external disks a DVD writer ok n the machine for loading software I no nothing about Apple products as the only Apple product I would buy is a granny Smith or an English cox.

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Sep 6, 2021 18:08:00   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
John Hicks wrote:
I would an AND chip over Intel either a 12 core of 16 core running at 5 ghz, choose mother board that will take up 96 GBP of memory and a 1tb ssd with a couple of 8 tb hard disks for data .
On the mother board a couple m2 sockets and twin graphic cards joined as one a 1.5 kw power supply , also get a couple of 8tb external disks a DVD writer ok n the machine for loading software I no nothing about Apple products as the only Apple product I would buy is a granny Smith or an English cox.
I would an AND chip over Intel either a 12 core of... (show quote)


Twin graphics cards and a 1.5KW power supply? Really?

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Sep 6, 2021 18:18:26   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
TriX wrote:
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Just a few comments:

There’s a lot more to CPU performance than clock speed. If you look at Intel Xeon professional CPUs, you’ll notice that they are generally fairly low clock speed. Instead, look here at actual performance benchmarks: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

No disagreement with the “K” designation if overclocking is your thing.

Regarding MBs, as I said earlier, I had driver issues with the last Intel MB I tried. Sent it back for an Asus, which has been running flawlessly for at least 7 years.

I am not a fan of water cooling (noise, reliability, leaks) for personal computers, although it is becoming a standard for HP enterprise servers.

No need to worry about the number of drive slots as your storage should generally be SSD, preferably m.2 NVME plugged directly to the MB.

As I stated earlier, I’d much prefer to purchase the parts and assemble my own. Manufacturers like HP or Dell tend to skimp on power supply capacity, expansion slots, etc.

If you’re planning on implementing a high speed internal network and/or a NAS, then consider a MB that supports 10 GigE Ethernet, which is quickly becoming affordable.
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Xeon CPUs are useless for the general consumer market. Read this whole article.

https://www.howtogeek.com/427596/xeon-vs.-core-are-intels-expensive-cpus-worth-a-premium/

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Sep 6, 2021 18:32:07   #
Joexx
 
TriX wrote:
I,’d just add that while companies like Puget are a good choice, having your neighborhood computer store assemble your PC for a charge may not be the best decision unless you specify name brand components as they may use their generic “house brand” unless you specify otherwise. Also, it’s really a trivial task to assemble a PC anymore with simplified drive mounting. Attach the MB (5-8 screws), attach the power supply (4 screws), plug in the DRAM, SSD, and CPU, plug in the cables from the MB to the case, and that’s it except for loading the OS and Aps. Takes no more than an hour for the HW and a couple of hours for the OS. Saves several hundred $ and you’ll actually get to choose all your components and learn something about this strange machine that you likely rely on daily.
I,’d just add that while companies like Puget are ... (show quote)


With all due respect, no it is not that easy. Yes you can save money and it is a great way to go for many reasons. Ever screw up the paste on the heatsink of a cpu?....Yes, most reasonably tech savvy people can do it with some research. The 2nd time is much easier, but.......

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