Organic (Page 2): Please read what I said: "as is the practice of labeling things “gluten free” when there was never a chance in you know where of them possibly having gluten in them."...

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Canonuser wrote:

What utter rubbish. Before coeliac disease was und... (show quote)

Please read what I said: "as is the practice of labeling things “gluten free” when there was never a chance in you know where of them possibly having gluten in them."

I never said anything about not labeling things that are really gluten free. I will accept in advance your humble apology for not reading carefully.

Graveman Loc: Indiana

jaymatt wrote:

Using the word “organic” is basically a scam, so far as I am concerned, as is the practice of labeling things “gluten free” when there was never a chance in you know where of them possibly having gluten in them. The other day I saw a watermelon labeled gluten free--still trying to figure out how anyone might get wheat flour into a watermelon.

Someone once sent me a picture of bottled water labeled "ORGANIC" and "GLUTEN FREE". I thought he was yanking my chain but he said it was real ( and having known him for years I believe him). It also cost about 3 times as much as the water next to it.

Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

TonyP wrote:

Interesting conversation. Here in New Zealand, any... (show quote)

Interesting how "organic" products have less care given them (i.e. less chemicals etc.) yet cost more. Same with water, less ingredients, more cost. They now have a water that actually admits such -- Hint. They advertise there is only a "hint" of natural flavoring, but the water costs 5x as much as regular water and 3x as much as cola which is basically sugared and flavored water.

Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb

jaymatt wrote:

Using the word “organic” is basically a scam, so far as I am concerned, as is the practice of labeling things “gluten free” when there was never a chance in you know where of them possibly having gluten in them. The other day I saw a watermelon labeled gluten free--still trying to figure out how anyone might get wheat flour into a watermelon.

I would love to answer that but don't want to get expelled again. There's an answer though.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Leo_B wrote:

I would love to answer that but don't want to get expelled again. There's an answer though.

Aw, come on!

fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH

I won't say "organic" is entirely a scam, as Jaymott claims. Organic farmers don't purposely apply pesticides and petrochemical-based fertilizers to their crops. However, there are so many manmade chemicals inundating in our atmosphere, ground and surface waters, it's impossible to grow 100% chemical free "organic" crops.

As for ice cream, the first three Breyers ingredients listed are "milk, cream, sugar." Same for Friendly's. Others, however, list "milk solids and corn syrup" as their first two ingredients and I steer clear of them. Quantity-wise, I agree. Like many products, their unspoken sales slogan seems to be "same great price; new smaller quantity."

bamfordr Loc: Campbell CA

TonyP wrote:

Interesting conversation. Here in New Zealand, any... (show quote)

Pretty much the same here (USA). United States Dept of Agriculture (USDA) has a food certification program with specified standards.

andesbill

Same thing applies here in the U.S.
However, only certain foods benefit from being organic.
Personally, I don’t want to buy meats which have been injected with antibiotics. It’s bad for me, and bad for the environment. (I only buy eggs from happy chickens. If I don’t see a chicken smiling on the carton, I won’t buy it). I prefer to buy organic free range eggs from local farmers. I don’t want eggs from chickens raised in hellish conditions. The black angus cows that I saw grazing in Wyoming, seem to have plenty of space to roam- I’d buy the meat from them.
Many fruits are sprayed with poisonous chemicals, so in those cases (berries, apples, peaches, etc), I’ll buy organic.
Not watermelon- with that thick rind, it should make little or no difference.
I fortunately have the money to indulge my taste.
There is a reason why cancers and autoimmune diseases are increasing, and it is possible that chemical companies might be leading the way.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

David Martin wrote:

Sadly, it's not only that. Once upon a time, Breye... (show quote)

Thanks for that. Too bad.

Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb

A few hundred years ago, when they first started to settle America they had all natural food and lived into there thirties, to day we have all this contaminated food and live in to our eighties. Yep, we are being poisoned.

marine73 Loc: Modesto California

If you truly want organic grow your own, that way you know what was doused as fertilizer and what was used to get rid if those pesky insects. My Granddad always had a garden and he never used any chemicals to eliminate insects. As far as fertilizer he always used manure from a barn, most places he lived he had 1 milk cow (where I learned how to milk a cow) and free ranging chickens. He never had any hogs, but occasionally he would raise a calf for meat.

jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska

marine73 wrote:

If you truly want organic grow your own, that way you know what was doused as fertilizer and what was used to get rid if those pesky insects. My Granddad always had a garden and he never used any chemicals to eliminate insects. As far as fertilizer he always used manure from a barn, most places he lived he had 1 milk cow (where I learned how to milk a cow) and free ranging chickens. He never had any hogs, but occasionally he would raise a calf for meat.

Cow and chicken manure used as fertilizers is the reason I don't eat "organic" foods.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

That’s true!

andesbill

I live in a housing development in Naples, FL. We can’t grow our food. However, there is a farm and farm stand near our development that we do buy from. When we lived in Andes in the Catskills, we grew berries, and bought from local farms as much as we could. I believe in supporting my neighbors.