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Aug 24, 2021 10:23:37   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
This is 2021. Your digital camera captures in full-color. It outputs converted JPEGs to B&W.

This is 2021. Edit your full color RAW (or JPEG) to B&W on your computer. You start with better potential in the original file, yielding a better result in B&W, including digital versions of color filters and custom software for different toning, if desired.


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Aug 24, 2021 10:42:53   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
In a modern digital camera, you are always capturing color, even if the camera is set to show you B & W.
Edit the color photo by using the color channels. By far this is the best method because grass may not be as green as you like or the sky not as blue, etc.

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Aug 24, 2021 10:43:47   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I shoot in colors and make a conversion during editing using Topaz B&W Effects 2. By the way, I always add some warmth to the image to simulate my favorite paper, Agfa fiber based.

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Aug 24, 2021 10:57:36   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
RustyNM wrote:
For those who do B&W:
Do you shoot in B&W, or
Do you shoot in color and convert?
why?


I always shoot in colour and then convert. You never know when you might want a colour version as well.

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Aug 24, 2021 11:03:39   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
RustyNM wrote:
For those who do B&W:
Do you shoot in B&W, or
Do you shoot in color and convert?
why?


I shoot in Raw Color and convert with ACR and / or Ps CS6 to B & W. Why? You need ask? If I had a specialty super pricey B&W digital camera I would shoot in B&W. Few people have such Leica or converted beasts.

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Aug 24, 2021 12:34:52   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
RustyNM wrote:
For those who do B&W:
Do you shoot in B&W, or
Do you shoot in color and convert?
why?


No
Yes, all cameras record in color (CFA) and because I can control the emphasis of color on the B&W image in PP

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Aug 24, 2021 12:53:56   #
JDefebaugh
 
For those who like shooting film because of the look of film (rather than the logistics of processing), particularly B&W, I would strongly urge you to give Exposure X6 a free try. While over the years it has evolved into a full fledged image processing solution, at its core is hundreds of B&W and color film emulator presents. At a click of your mouse it (non-destructively) applies just about whatever specific brand and type of film emulation you want to your image. Incredibly accurate tones, contrast, grain, etc. You can download a fully functioning trial copy for 30 days. I started out using Exposure (formerly known as Alienskin) simply to get the look of film, but for 98% of my photo processing it has replaced PS and LR.

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Aug 24, 2021 12:56:10   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
RustyNM wrote:
For those who do B&W:
Do you shoot in B&W, or
Do you shoot in color and convert?
why?


I almost always shoot RAW (on rare occasion, RAW + JPEG) and I always shoot color.

I only convert from color to B&W later when I'm sitting behind a computer and looking at the image on a calibrated monitor.

I shot a lot of B&W film back in the good/bad old days. Loved it. Still do enjoy B&W images and prints.

When I shot B&W film I used a number of different filters to fine tune the shots. Today I don't carry those filters... but they can easily be applied during the B&W conversion in Photoshop. In fact, doing the tweaks to B&W in post-processing is far more precise, flexible and versatile than film and filters ever were. For one, you can preview how the B&W image will look, which was impossible with film. Now in digital post processing if you don't like something you can back up and try another approach.

You can do some of this shooting monochrome digital in-camera, of couirse... But not nearly as much as is possible doing it in post-processing instead.

There was an image posted here on UHH in the last couple days that was shown both in color and in a B&W version. Usually I'd lean toward the B&W image. But in this case I thought the color image worked better for several reasons. Primarily it was a complex scene that had a lot of interesting layers that were nicely delineated in color, but it just sort of became "gray mush" when converted to B&W.

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Aug 24, 2021 12:59:09   #
b top gun
 
For a long time I used Lightroom to convert to monochrome, at the urging of the local pro lab who printed my images. However, say it ain't so, yet, on a recent Nikon holiday to Puget Sound and the Bonneville Dam in July I took several shots with my D850 set for monochrome and to my surprise the RAW files for those images had no color at all to them!

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Aug 24, 2021 13:16:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
b top gun wrote:
For a long time I used Lightroom to convert to monochrome, at the urging of the local pro lab who printed my images. However, say it ain't so, yet, on a recent Nikon holiday to Puget Sound and the Bonneville Dam in July I took several shots with my D850 set for monochrome and to my surprise the RAW files for those images had no color at all to them!


Look a bit closer, especially at the software used to open those RAW files ... All the color data was there. Your camera does not behave differently than all other digital cameras.

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Aug 24, 2021 13:31:12   #
Riverrune
 
Yes. Digital cameras shoot color. If you want B&W you have to convert in post processing. You could go back to film, I suppose and set up a dark room.

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Aug 24, 2021 15:48:02   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
Just in case some individuals haven't discovered the way to convert to B&W in Lightroom:

1. From the Lightroom Control Pattern, choose "Color". There are 3 options: Color, Monochrome and Browse. You are already in Color, so ignore that one. "Monochrome" will convert to B&W, but using Lightroom's choices. The last option to choose is "Browse". This is a good one to pick. You will be given a scroll down menu starting with a bunch of color options, and then some B&W options starting with B&W01 through B&W12, followed by B&W Blue Filter through B&W Red Filter and then some more color options. As you hover your mouse over various choices, the main screen will reflect what your choice could look like.

When you find what you like, click on the button and then hit the 'close' button. You can now finish any other tweaks you may want to do on the image.

Note: Photoshop can do filters too, and actually has many more to choose from.

Or you can use software such as NIK Collection: Silver Efex Pro
And there are many others also.

The last image is just for comparison. The camera is a Sony A6300 that I had modified to become a true monochrome camera. And I was using one of my favorite lenses for B&W, the Asahi Pentax Takumar 50mm f1.4, the 8-element model that Asahi made to go toe to toe with the Zeiss Planar lens. Once they got the review they were looking for, they switched to a cheaper to manufacture 7-element version. I have that one too. Actually, I have many B&W favorite lenses.

This is also a Lightroom screen shot and was a 66% view. When I shoot with this camera, I have to run the RAW files through an application to turn them into mono DNG files. And in this case, I loaded the DNG file into Lightroom and made zero other adjustments. For the Straight Out of the Camera crowd, which I am not one of, this is as close to SOOC that you can get. Also note the detail one gets when there is no demosaicing that has to be done.
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Aug 24, 2021 17:15:47   #
Jerrymuller1947 Loc: Massachusetts
 
I shoot all my photos in color and convert to black and white in post processing. I like adjusting the color photo first to optimize the image and then choose pictures that I think would look better in black and white. I love black and white for street and portraits but some images just have to be in color and doing it this way gives me flexibility without losing a shot.

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Aug 24, 2021 19:07:30   #
hrblaine
 
"In film days, I carried a camera with color and another with B&W."

In film days (35mm) I was shooting mostly theatre dance. In B/W. Everything else (landscapes, dogs, horses) in color. Harry

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Aug 24, 2021 19:08:03   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
Shoot in color then convert to B&W in Lightroom. That way I have the option of either version. Shoot in B&W and you can not convert to color.

Don

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