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Aug 20, 2021 16:19:25   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I can concur, many of my East Indian and Asian wedding clients have all-day all-night ceremonies, receptions into the morning. The longest wedding shoot I did was for a real mob guy in Philly. He insisted I stay and shoot through their champagne breakfast the next morning. I of course didn't argue with him and was paid well.

Here three shots, two from an Indian-American wedding, and one from my mob client. Just dont share these outside our group ok.

Cheers


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Aug 20, 2021 16:24:46   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I always scout out my wedding venues in advance at the same time as the ceremony so I can check out the lighting if outside and meet with the family during rehearsal or other time, to go over the day's schedule so they know what I expect from them and what they should expect from me.

Still always something will change or go south, that is to be expected. I just roll with it. Oh, and I tell folks I will make great shots but they will look like themselves, lol. Once for a dear friend whose daughter's wedding I was hired and paid very well to shoot, I went through each photo and whitened the yellow teeth of the bride and groom. Nothing was said and everyone just loved the shots and their lovely smiles. .

That wasn't this happy jumping couple. I scouted out this golf course in advance as they were having their wedding ceremony and reception there. That way I wasted no time between ceremony and reception driving them in a reserved golf cart exactly to where I wanted to make this shot, with my co-shooter taking our portable lighting gear in another reserved golf cart , all worked out in advance. Pre-Planning can save so much stress during hectic shoots. And the bride came prepared ,and changed quickly out of her fancy wedding shoes into her blue sneakers for this shot .
Cheers
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Aug 20, 2021 16:37:50   #
robertperry Loc: Sacramento, Ca.
 
Shapiro's knowledge and expertise far exceeds just about everyone on this forum. Telling others you know all about shutter speed, aperture and iso doesn't make you a wedding photographer. The amount of time you spend with consultations, researching the venue('s), some places require the photographer to carry liability insurance or they have photo restrictions. All this time far exceeds the 4,8,12 hrs. you spend behind the camera. Communication is the key to a successful photo shoot. High quality photos require you to know your equipment inside and out and be able to work at lightning speed. Family, relatives and others have important jobs/responsibilities to do (decorate, set up for the reception, etc.). Communication with everyone is vital. Photography takes time, no-one has time, everyone is frantically running around because they have jobs to do. Communication long before the wedding day is a must. There will be times you, the photographer, will need to fill the roll as a therapist and calm down the B/G and relatives that don't see eye to eye. It is your responsibility as the photographer to capture the best expressions. Occasionally things go smoothly (those were the weddings I bragged about). Most of the time, stress and time constraints cause problems for the wedding party. Out of the dozen weddings I did and a few years assisting, classroom and OJT, I chose to not do weddings. I assisted and often helped the official photographer get out of sticky situations. I often smiled at them and said now you know why I don't do this for a living. Wedding photography can be very lucrative business if you choose to pursue it. My biggest take away from this is "Communication". You, the B/G and all relatives need to be on the same page. Learn from the pros, get hired on as an assistant and absorb as much as possible. The occasional shoot my friend's wedding will almost always result in a horrifying experience. Lick your wounds and press on. That is what a professional does.

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Aug 20, 2021 17:18:10   #
jlocke Loc: Austin, TX
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
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That wasn't this happy jumping couple. I scouted out this golf course in advance as they were having their wedding ceremony and reception there. That way I wasted no time between ceremony and reception driving them in a reserved golf cart exactly to where I wanted to make this shot, with my co-shooter taking our portable lighting gear in another reserved golf cart , all worked out in advance. Pre-Planning can save so much stress during hectic shoots. And the bride came prepared ,and changed quickly out of her fancy wedding shoes into her blue sneakers for this shot .
Cheers
... br br That wasn't this happy jumping couple. ... (show quote)


Love the blue sneakers. Great shot!

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Aug 20, 2021 17:22:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I can concur, many of my East Indian and Asian wedding clients have all-day all-night ceremonies, receptions into the morning. The longest wedding shoot I did was for a real mob guy in Philly. He insisted I stay and shoot through their champagne breakfast the next morning. I of course didn't argue with him and was paid well.

Here three shots, two from an Indian-American wedding, and one from my mob client. Just dont share these outside our group ok.

Cheers


You know these are now all over the world.

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Aug 20, 2021 17:43:02   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
bdk wrote:
This past week I shot another wedding. it was a beach wedding, The sun was low making harsh shadows, There was 2 garbage cans chained to a flag pole which was directly behind the path set up for the bride to walk. There were signs on the dunes, on the wood boardwalk. There was large buildings behind that.
The sky was gray not blue, ( thank god for sky replacement )
the brides maid decided she should stick her tongue out non stop thinking it was funny.

The grooms mother was late the wedding had started. I didnt get a pic of her coming down the isle, she snuck down the side ( kind of hard to hide on the beach. )
When I did photos after the ceremony, the Grooms mother got up and left. I had one pic of her and it wasnt good.

I sent a few pix to the brides mother The bride was very heavy, the mother was heavy, She was not happy with those pix saying she looked fat. ( that was after I had did my best to make her look thinner while shooting and while editing)
Editing is a bitch , removing all the signs and garbage cans, the wind was blowing so lots of hair editing.

So you know how my week is going . Im sure you have some great photo stories, lets hear them,
This past week I shot another wedding. it was a ... (show quote)
Reminds me of a joke:
A woman asks her husband "does this dress make me look fat". The husband says "no, your big butt makes you look fat". A funeral service for the husband is scheduled for next Wednesday.

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Aug 20, 2021 17:46:31   #
issa2006.
 
Great information from Shapiro. I might do it for a friend and I tell them I will be doing only candid shots and there will not be a charge. Someone else can do the formal stuff.

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Aug 20, 2021 17:59:57   #
steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida
 
So far as that mob related wedding "never say NO to a man named GINO!" :)

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Aug 20, 2021 18:11:03   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
billnikon wrote:
I was a professional wedding photographer for over 35 years, and folks who are amateurs should never attempt one.
Experience teaches the professionals how to handle all situations resulting in professional results.
Again, amateurs stay home, and do all of us professionals a favor.


How did you become a professional? Or were you born, so to speak, straight into the profession? You write, "Experience teaches the professionals how to handle all situations resulting in professional results" Were you an amateur before "experience" taught you? There was another response to OP by a long time photographer whose answer was a helpful sharing of how to handle difficult situations and, more importantly, was a demonstration of empathetic decency.

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Aug 20, 2021 19:43:02   #
domcomm Loc: Denver, CO
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
NO WEDDINGS, PERIOD!


I totally agree! Never again! I had nothing but trouble with weddings, no matter who, or how many people were there (whether 4 people or 7,000). I got ripped off more on weddings because of unhappy brides than any other kind of photography I did in the last 50 years.

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Aug 20, 2021 20:03:17   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
WoW, and I hate the situations at car shows. I still consider myself a novice (compared to everyone here), but fully understand based on you description and what Iā€™m learning.

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Aug 20, 2021 21:49:39   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
We have another blog about t photographer that almost lost a finger being shot (with a rubber bullet) in a croud of protesters. For me the protest shotter is better than shooting a wedding.

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Aug 20, 2021 22:41:01   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
I raise my hand to confess - while still in college at RIT, I had decided that I did not want to earn a living as a career shooting the "3 B's" (babies, brides and bar mitzphahs). Since I married before my senior year of college, I needed to develop a mind set to both explore my 'photographic vision' as well as think realistically about how I might be able to earn a living from my chosen career direction.

Your experience as documented is part of the reason why I chose to believe in myself and 'gamble big' on the direction of my career. (No more about me.)

Post shoot, a beach wedding at the time of day (not of your choice) begins to force you to think about how to "save" the wedding (pictures). Maybe it is taking more pictures at the post wedding party when you can capture bride/groom and relatives indoors in a more successfully conducive setting for pictures that are both well done and 'easier' to shoot than outdoor beach shots. This is what I would be thinking and planning to do.

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Aug 21, 2021 02:41:20   #
Steven Loc: So. Milwaukee, WI.
 
That type of stuff got me to put weddings in the circle file.

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Aug 21, 2021 04:33:19   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I always scout out my wedding venues in advance at the same time as the ceremony so I can check out the lighting if outside and meet with the family during rehearsal or other time, to go over the day's schedule so they know what I expect from them and what they should expect from me.

Still always something will change or go south, that is to be expected. I just roll with it. Oh, and I tell folks I will make great shots but they will look like themselves, lol. Once for a dear friend whose daughter's wedding I was hired and paid very well to shoot, I went through each photo and whitened the yellow teeth of the bride and groom. Nothing was said and everyone just loved the shots and their lovely smiles. .

That wasn't this happy jumping couple. I scouted out this golf course in advance as they were having their wedding ceremony and reception there. That way I wasted no time between ceremony and reception driving them in a reserved golf cart exactly to where I wanted to make this shot, with my co-shooter taking our portable lighting gear in another reserved golf cart , all worked out in advance. Pre-Planning can save so much stress during hectic shoots. And the bride came prepared ,and changed quickly out of her fancy wedding shoes into her blue sneakers for this shot .
Cheers
I always scout out my wedding venues in advance at... (show quote)


SU-PERB!
super fun the "blue sweet shoes"...they are not "omnipresent" but just enough visible!I like this picture.

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