Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Color profiles are different between the full sized version and the thumbnail. The colors a a bit richer in the full sized images. What do you do for color management?

Rickhstudio Loc: San Antonio, TX

Gene, great eagles. I’m jealous😖. Lots of Caracara, turkey and black vultures, crows, ravens and Harris’ hawks as scavengers down here but they are hard to catch unless they are on a carcass. They are very wary and kick up at any approach. Part of the problem might be because I am taking photos on a large lease with no cattle or oil field worker traffic like my last one and none of the birds or animals are used to people. When the birds are on a dead animal though, you can almost walk right up to them. Otherwise, I’m almost like a prior commenter, I see them overhead. That’s all. Hard to shoot those black or dark birds against a clear blue sky. That’s where EV comes in. I’d rather shoot other birds against the sky if I have to. Look at the download, the color is a lot better.

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Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Thanks!

The Caracara is such a beautiful bird. We only have black and turkey vultures in Delaware.

Rickhstudio Loc: San Antonio, TX

My normal workflow is raw into Lightroom, then into Topaz DeNoise AI before I do any corrections, back to Lightroom where I adjust color and make general adjustments. The contest I was just in only allows global adjustments and requires a no more than 50% crop with no cloning. So, I just got used to doing that with everything. I then go to Photoshop for final adjustments output to tif in Adobe rgb, size to 2000 pixels on the longest side and output to SRGB jpg. Probably more info than you wanted. BTW I really appreciate your input I think it has made this topic a lot more interesting.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The issue is the JPEG. As referenced earlier, capture in RAW, edit in ProPhotoRGB, save-as to JPEG in sRGB (in PhotoShop). Or, Export from LR in the sRGB colorspace.

This UHH discussion gives examples and discussion:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-364870-1.html

This discussion speaks to the 65535 code in the EXIF data (the EXIF of this image actually says "ProPhotoRGB" in the ICC Profile Name within the JPEG):

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/33729-what-is-going-on-with-the-exif-color-space-values/

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CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The history of the first image seems to have skipped the final Lightroom Export step. LR is the easiest way to assure the pixel resolution and the colorspace.

History for first bird:

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Rickhstudio Loc: San Antonio, TX

Thanks, I’ll dig deeper. Apparently I’m not looking in the correct place. I may have some shots to redo.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

See my history comment reply, above. Re-import into LR and let your LR export create the JPEG and handle the colorspace.

Rickhstudio Loc: San Antonio, TX

One thing that is fun for me in wildlife photography is to try to anthropomorphize bird and animal shots. I know we can’t really map human emotions or actions on the critters but, it’s fun to try.

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Rickhstudio Loc: San Antonio, TX

Thanks again…tomorrow! Do I need to start from scratch or can I re-import the tif? Lightroom is new to me. I worked with other programs prior to this year.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I believe the final result was from PhotoShop and / or Topaz. The attached JPEG says it was created by PS. The file that was output to the JPEG is the file that just needs to be imported into LR and stacked with any other versions of same. As the 'final' version, put on the top of any stacks.

10MPlayer Loc: California

I wonder if anyone uses a ghilly suit for photography. It's certainly almost impossible for humans to detect when used in the right environment.




True. Yesterday on a walk in the park I saw Canada geese, mallards, squirrels, pigeons, a turtle and some rather interesting humans lurking about. Someone mentioned the difference between birds in the wild and birds in the city. The honkers will allow you to walk within two or three feet of them here in the city. You could literally snatch one by the neck if you were so inclined. When I go to the wetlands preserves it's hard to get within 100 yards of the geese and ducks if they see you coming. Sometimes just the sound of the car wheels on the gravel is enough to startle them.

A final word: Thanks to you Rick and to Gene for this clinic on wildlife photography. There's a lot of absorb here. Patience, preparation, understanding your "prey". One thing a lot of us could pick up on is how little you guys talk about gear. Of course good equipment and software technique makes a difference but most of what talk about here that's useful to someone like me is the three things I mentioned above. Patience, preparation, and understanding.

Rickhstudio Loc: San Antonio, TX

Thanks for your response. I have taken wildlife photos for many years but I think I’ve been a hunter longer. I will say though, getting close for good photos is the “hardest” hunting I have ever done. The worst probably was waterfowl and predators.
I sat in my low blind, with my ghillie suit on and had egrets come so close that even at 100mm they were bigger than my frame. It really surprised me and anyone who says camo doesn’t work in the wild, not in places where the critters are used to people, hasn’t tried to capture shots of “wild” animals. If you can use your camera, with animals, sight, sound and scent are the most important things you have to consider as a photographer. With birds, except turkeys, it is mainly sight. A turkey hunter friend of mine said that “if turkeys could smell, they’d be impossible to hunt.”
If you understand your “prey” almost any camera will work to get decent pictures.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

These are fun!

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

You're welcome!