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Jul 7, 2021 09:11:28   #
Bayou
 
Whuff wrote:
Have you checked the lens thouroughly for some type of locking mechanism that needs to be changed to unlock the focus ring? That was my initial thought when reading your post. Hopefully that’s all it is.

Walt


Indeed. This lens does have a focus lock feature, if this is the same lens....copied from a manufacturer's description:

"The focus lock feature enables the precise focus to remain locked in during long exposures, a perfect feature for astrophotographers"



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Jul 7, 2021 09:14:46   #
mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD
 
flip1948 wrote:
You'd be surprised by the number of sellers who choose that stipulation. In any event it is covered by eBay's money back guarantee.

It's just going to be a bit of a pain to have to send it back and I'll probably have to eat the return shipping charge.


Unless an item is listed as "for parts or repair" the seller has to take it back if defective no matter how many times he/she says "no returns". They also have to pay shipping charges, not you.

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Jul 7, 2021 09:26:50   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
flip1948 wrote:


Am I right?


Yes. But this is why I quit using eBay years ago. It’s not worth the hassle!

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Jul 7, 2021 09:43:28   #
Sergey
 
Just don't put it off for too long if the seller doesn't reply. I once lost about $160 on eBay because I was waiting too long for the seller's reply. He kept adding delays, agreed to take the broken item back, I sent it and never saw my money back. And it was too late to involve eBay. Stupid me!

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Jul 7, 2021 09:50:45   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
Bayou wrote:
Indeed. This lens does have a focus lock feature, if this is the same lens....copied from a manufacturer's description:

"The focus lock feature enables the precise focus to remain locked in during long exposures, a perfect feature for astrophotographers"

That's the Mark II version of the lens. The one I bought is the Mark I and doesn't have the lock.

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Jul 7, 2021 09:56:52   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
flip1948 wrote:
I love ultra wide lenses and the dramatic prospective they provide. I also love the incredible depth of field they provide, allowing you to keep foreground and distant objects in focus together.

I used to have a Sigma 15-30mm EX DG zoom, that I shot pretty much exclusively at the 15mm end. I sold that a few years ago to another Hogger, but always planned on getting another.

After a lot of research I decided to go for a Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 prime. I could have purchased one new from a number of sources for $349, or in excellent condition from MPB for $259 which is what I planned to do.

However, before pulling the trigger I checked eBay where I've had a lot of luck obtaining some fine glass for good prices. There I found one advertised as "new, open box" for $210 with free shipping so I bought that.

It arrived about an hour ago and looked perfect, with one exception. After mounting it on my D610 for a couple of test shots I discovered the focus ring did not work. Of course this is a manual focus lens, so a working focus mechanism is essential.

I dashed off a message to the seller who listed it as "no returns accepted". It is my opinion that should not apply to an item that arrives DOA...we'll see what he says. Luckily, the lens is covered by eBay's money back guarantee, but if he refuses to take it back I might have to issue a negative feedback.

Am I right?
I love ultra wide lenses and the dramatic prospect... (show quote)


More than right IMO! eBay and other hosts of online sellers, where a customer cannot physically inspect goods prior to purchase should never allow a seller have a “No returns” policy.

Stan

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Jul 7, 2021 10:58:00   #
Bayou
 
flip1948 wrote:
That's the Mark II version of the lens. The one I bought is the Mark I and doesn't have the lock.



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Jul 7, 2021 11:36:47   #
Alyn McConnaha Loc: Lebanon, IN
 
OF COURSE. But first contact the seller;if he does not respond--SUE.

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Jul 7, 2021 11:56:56   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
JFCoupe wrote:
This transaction may fall into the 'Too good to be true' category. I hope the seller is responsive, but the seller obviously knew the lens was defective when they posted "no returns accepted."


Not a fair response; i always sell "no returns" but will take back an item fir which a buyer has a legitimate concern; just don't want to deal with a change of mind; not right or fair to make an accusation not based on any facts that you have knowledge of

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Jul 7, 2021 12:28:39   #
cindo51
 
You are 100% right! He must definitely have insurance as well, ? Maybe not... but what a hassle : (

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Jul 7, 2021 14:31:20   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
blumoon722 wrote:
If seller described the lens as new open box, Ebay will make him give you a refund even if he said no returns accepted. If the seller gives you a hard time open a case on Ebay.



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Jul 7, 2021 14:40:48   #
SteveD1 Loc: Northern NJ
 
It doesn’t matter that the seller says “No Returns”. Just tell eBay that the product is defective and they will credit you upon verified return to the seller. I’ve run into that same situation, not with camera equipment though.

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Jul 7, 2021 17:33:45   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
flip1948 wrote:

Am I right?


Aaaargh be true. Stay the course, let the process do its thing, then decide how big a hammer to use.

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Jul 7, 2021 17:44:40   #
SteveD1 Loc: Northern NJ
 
Ed Chu wrote:
Not a fair response; i always sell "no returns" but will take back an item fir which a buyer has a legitimate concern; just don't want to deal with a change of mind; not right or fair to make an accusation not based on any facts that you have knowledge of

I’ve sold on eBay but not recently. I think if you don’t say returns accepted it defaults to returns not accepted.

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Jul 7, 2021 18:30:05   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
flip1948 wrote:
I love ultra wide lenses and the dramatic prospective they provide. I also love the incredible depth of field they provide, allowing you to keep foreground and distant objects in focus together.

I used to have a Sigma 15-30mm EX DG zoom, that I shot pretty much exclusively at the 15mm end. I sold that a few years ago to another Hogger, but always planned on getting another.

After a lot of research I decided to go for a Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 prime. I could have purchased one new from a number of sources for $349, or in excellent condition from MPB for $259 which is what I planned to do.

However, before pulling the trigger I checked eBay where I've had a lot of luck obtaining some fine glass for good prices. There I found one advertised as "new, open box" for $210 with free shipping so I bought that.

It arrived about an hour ago and looked perfect, with one exception. After mounting it on my D610 for a couple of test shots I discovered the focus ring did not work. Of course this is a manual focus lens, so a working focus mechanism is essential.

I dashed off a message to the seller who listed it as "no returns accepted". It is my opinion that should not apply to an item that arrives DOA...we'll see what he says. Luckily, the lens is covered by eBay's money back guarantee, but if he refuses to take it back I might have to issue a negative feedback.

Am I right?
I love ultra wide lenses and the dramatic prospect... (show quote)
Deal with the seller on an item that is not working properly as little as possible. Chances are they knew the item was faulty. Once you have contacted the seller one time (you already did that) go through the ebay return policy. Unless the lens was advertised as not working or for parts only, ebay should return your money plus postage, plus give you a postage paid return label via email that you can print and use. It doesn't matter what the seller says about returns, and they know it. Once you get your money back I don't believe you can leave a rating.

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