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Jun 30, 2021 09:55:56   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you want to be a better photographer, stand in front of more interesting stuff. ~ Jim Richardson

With your full frame camera ~ Paul Sager addendum

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Jun 30, 2021 09:58:51   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
rmalarz wrote:
I was watching an interview with Daniel Milnor. He's a documentary photographer. One of the statements he made was in regard to the successful high-end photographers is their lack of being obsessed with equipment. It appears that amateurs are the equipment-obsessed group. The successful photographers will discuss techniques, aspects of projects in which they are currently engaged, etc. Equipment is not a primary concern.

That makes a great deal of sense in that working with equipment that one has had for a considerable length of time provides the comfort of familiarity. That allows one to concentrate on the project at hand.
--Bob
I was watching an interview with Daniel Milnor. He... (show quote)


As an artist I am well aware that my brushes don't make or break my paintings.

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Jun 30, 2021 10:04:41   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rmalarz wrote:
I was watching an interview with Daniel Milnor. He's a documentary photographer. One of the statements he made was in regard to the successful high-end photographers is their lack of being obsessed with equipment. It appears that amateurs are the equipment-obsessed group. The successful photographers will discuss techniques, aspects of projects in which they are currently engaged, etc. Equipment is not a primary concern.

That makes a great deal of sense in that working with equipment that one has had for a considerable length of time provides the comfort of familiarity. That allows one to concentrate on the project at hand.
--Bob
I was watching an interview with Daniel Milnor. He... (show quote)


There’s a distinction between bring obsessed with equipment and making sure you have the right equipment. The demands of a documentary photographer are gonna be quite different than a professional sports photographer. That sports photographer isn’t going to obsess over equipment but he’s gonna make sure his equipment has the reach, focus speed and frame rate for the job.

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Jun 30, 2021 10:05:30   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I don’t think anyone is confusing you with an accomplished photographer.

By no means!

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Jun 30, 2021 10:05:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There’s a distinction between bring obsessed with equipment and making sure you have the right equipment. The demands of a documentary photographer are gonna be quite different than a professional sports photographer. That sports photographer isn’t going to obsess over equipment but he’s gonna make sure his equipment has the reach, focus speed and frame rate for the job.

Yes, there is a difference.

People who make sure they have the right equipment don't let everyone know about it.

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Jun 30, 2021 10:07:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Fotoartist wrote:
As an artist I am well aware that my brushes don't make or break my paintings.


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Jun 30, 2021 10:08:33   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I understand that pro photographers rent equipment to suit the need. I suppose they own basic gear. Insurance costs likely stay lower that way, too.
tradio wrote:
I would think that a high-end photographer would already have an arsenal of glass and accessories therefor, he can devote his thoughts and discussions on techniques-
That's the argument I make with the better half anyway...

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Jun 30, 2021 10:10:17   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Too bad electricians use "Contractor Grade" to keep costs down.

Do any painters use disposable brushes so they don't have to be cleaned?


“Contractor grade” relates to the things like wiring, outlets and switches that the electrician installs. It says nothing of the tools he works with.

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Jun 30, 2021 10:12:43   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:
People get cameras that can do 200 things,
and only know how to use 10 of them.


I buy camera that does a lot of things and I use only a few things because I can't afford the one that does exactly what I want. People want camera with lots of features so a camera with bunch of features is cheaper than ones with very few features.

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Jun 30, 2021 10:13:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
“Contractor grade” relates to the things like wiring, outlets and switches that the electrician installs. It says nothing of the tools he works with.

Why stop at tools?

Ie. film, memory cards, batteries, ...
Wiring, switches, outlets simply get left at the job site. He still uses them.
So his "tools" may be the best, but what he installs may not be.

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Jun 30, 2021 10:17:40   #
GrannyAnnie
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
I don't think Van Gogh, Picasso and Renoir had better brushes.


So true!!

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Jun 30, 2021 10:19:41   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I had a have had and still create as an Art Director. And shoot video projects for pay.
Changing gear for a specific reason seems to me to be part of or process in what we
want to create and maybe sell imagery.
I recently switched to a more creative approach. And the Fuji camera's, lens and philosophy
has really impressed me. I am training myself with their very good magazine and emails
full of information constantly. They want you to be creative. And show you how amazing
people create images. This turn from good Sony's for work and play has changed my
thinking. And they support their camera's for years. Not a new model every 15 minutes.
Changing gear can have a very important lifestyle change.

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Jun 30, 2021 10:20:08   #
Najataagihe
 
Longshadow wrote:
Why stop at tools?

Ie. film, memory cards, batteries, ...
Wiring, switches, outlets simply get left at the job site. He still uses them.
So his "tools" may be the best, but what he installs may not be.

You may have slipped and revealed a Photographic Truth.




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Jun 30, 2021 10:21:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Najataagihe wrote:
You may have slipped and revealed a Photographic Truth.





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Jun 30, 2021 10:21:46   #
User ID
 
Picture Taker wrote:
It's the eye behind the camera.

ROTFLMFAO

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