An Interesting Point Regarding Amateur vs. Accomplished Photographers
Jun 30, 2021 07:52:48 #
Jun 30, 2021 07:56:43 #
Longshadow wrote:
Too bad electricians use "Contractor Grade" to keep costs down. 
Do any painters use disposable brushes so they don't have to be cleaned?
Do any painters use disposable brushes so they don't have to be cleaned?
Ha...When we get to the subject of electricians I will take a look and let you know.
The house painters we have used inside our house have all used quality brushes and they also took darn good care of them.
Dennis
Jun 30, 2021 08:02:59 #
Photographers are just like golfers. I'm playing poor golf so I'll buy a $500 driver. No, spend $300 on lessons and you'll have a better game and $200 for green fees. So take your old camera and go to a workshop and learn, don't buy just to stroke your GAS.
Jun 30, 2021 08:04:50 #
Just look into the past and admire all the photos we’ve seen in National Geographic and at various photographic art shows. You see fantastic displays of talent using all sorts of vintage equipment. We will ALWAYS want the latest and greatest. In reality, the job gets done by the photographer and with the equipment on hand. When I was in High School 50+ years ago, I dreamed of having a Nikon Photomic to shoot for our Class Yearbook. But alas, I settled for an Yashica twin lens. The job still got done. But as a technophile, I do love some of the innovation that’s taken place in the past 50 years. Now retired, I can afford the equipment I want even if I don’t make money with it. It’s now a hobby to enjoy and sooooo worth it!
Jun 30, 2021 08:04:52 #
Interesting, and makes a lot of sense. For references, you might take a look at a series of videos called The Photographic Eye, he talks about technique, not gear. After over fifty years of imaging in one form or another, I have found his short talks to be inspiring.
Jun 30, 2021 08:05:09 #
Just look into the past and admire all the photos we’ve seen in National Geographic and at various photographic art shows. You see fantastic displays of talent using all sorts of vintage equipment. We will ALWAYS want the latest and greatest. In reality, the job gets done by the photographer and with the equipment on hand. When I was in High School 50+ years ago, I dreamed of having a Nikon Photomic to shoot for our Class Yearbook. But alas, I settled for an Yashica twin lens. The job still got done. But as a technophile, I do love some of the innovation that’s taken place in the past 50 years. Now retired, I can afford the equipment I want even if I don’t make money with it. It’s now a hobby to enjoy and sooooo worth it!
Jun 30, 2021 08:40:31 #
Agree with this assessment: "Professional photographers are photographers who get paid for their photography.
Amateur photographers pursue photography for non-pecuniary interests.
Neither classification suggests a level of accomplishment.
Amateur photographers pursue photography for non-pecuniary interests.
Neither classification suggests a level of accomplishment.
fetzler wrote:
That's right vision and creativity is the most important element of photography. One does need, however, the right equipment for the task at hand which may narrow the selection of cameras and lenses.
Professional photographers are photographers who get paid for their photography.
Amateur photographers pursue photography for non-pecuniary interests.
Neither classification suggests a level of accomplishment."
Professional photographers are photographers who get paid for their photography.
Amateur photographers pursue photography for non-pecuniary interests.
Neither classification suggests a level of accomplishment."
Jun 30, 2021 08:48:28 #
An amateur will tend to believe hard work is what brings good luck and success. Professional photographers know the secret is a full-frame camera.
Jun 30, 2021 08:48:56 #
Jun 30, 2021 08:50:43 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
An amateur will tend to believe hard work is what brings good luck and success. Professional photographers know the secret is a full-frame camera.
Are you saying it does not HAVE to be a Mirrorless full frame camera?
Dennis
Jun 30, 2021 08:51:57 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
ChuckMN wrote:
Photographers are just like golfers. I'm playing poor golf so I'll buy a $500 driver. No, spend $300 on lessons and you'll have a better game and $200 for green fees. So take your old camera and go to a workshop and learn, don't buy just to stroke your GAS.
I have been to workshops, and I have shot in group situatiobs, and I will tell you that way too many folks who are supposedly seeking to become "good photigraphers" are just lazy and, as a result, almost hopelessly ignorant. At one workshop I attended, participants were asked to set their cameras to manual focus and exposure, turn off all noise reduction, and select a "Flat" image control. That began an excruciating 30 minute struggle, because the majority of the participants did not have a clue how to accomplish those simple, basic tasks. I think that many folks continue to search for a new camera which doesn't place such unreasonable demands on them.
Of course, this isn't limited to photography. Simple slotted-head screws have not been allowed in Europe for quite some time because people won't take the time to learn how to use them safely. Instead, Phillips head screws, called "safety screws," and other similar fasteners that won't allow the screwdriver to slip out and cause injury are required.
So yes...many buy a new, more capable camera instead of learning to use the one that they already have. Then they don't take the time to learn the new camera either, and the cycle repeats.
I am not saying that there is never a reason to buy a new, more capable camera. But I have learned that those who are continually chasing the latest technology are really in a continuous search for a camera that will do everything for them. One that will mask the reality that they have never taken the time to learn the things they need to know to be effective photographers.
Jun 30, 2021 08:52:20 #
Jun 30, 2021 08:56:25 #
larryepage wrote:
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Of course, this isn't limited to photography. Simple slotted-head screws have not been allowed in Europe for quite some time because people won't take the time to learn how to use them safely. Instead, Phillips head screws, called "safety screws," and other similar fasteners that won't allow the screwdriver to slip out and cause injury are required.
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Of course, this isn't limited to photography. Simple slotted-head screws have not been allowed in Europe for quite some time because people won't take the time to learn how to use them safely. Instead, Phillips head screws, called "safety screws," and other similar fasteners that won't allow the screwdriver to slip out and cause injury are required.
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Boy, talk about laws to protect people from themselves.........
Jun 30, 2021 08:57:46 #
larryepage wrote:
I have been to workshops, and I have shot in group... (show quote)
People get cameras that can do 200 things,
and only know how to use 10 of them.
Jun 30, 2021 09:06:38 #
zug55
Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
texasdigital wrote:
True, but most professional photographers I'm familiar with, already shoot with advanced equipment.
I think that is the answer. Professionals pick high-end equipment and then focus on their work. Most professionals have a much better idea of what they need in terms of camera body and lenses, and they tend to stick with those for years without worrying about the latest upgrades. Yet, professionals keep informed about innovation and upgrade their equipment as well. Many have switched to mirrorless systems, for instance.
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