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Jun 9, 2021 19:03:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
On your next cruise, if you passed another photographer on the boat with your same equipment, would you be impressed? That tells you if you should just be using your phone.

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Jun 9, 2021 19:10:01   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
Robertjerl;
I hope you vont inue to do werll.
Mundy

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Jun 9, 2021 19:23:37   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
The 3rd picture looks like one of my Nikon F2's (a real camera).
Mundy

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Jun 10, 2021 08:34:33   #
dugeeeeeee
 
If only my real camera could upload my picture to all my devices, multiple social media apps, save a backup to the cloud etc. hell I’d be happy if it would just go straight to Lightroom. For the money I spent you’d think it would be just a little connected.

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Jun 10, 2021 09:26:03   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Every year, cell phone cameras get better and better. "Real Cameras" get updated maybe every five years. At this rate it will not take long for cell phone cameras to perform better than most "Real Cameras". My Iphone 12 Pro Max has wide angle, telephoto and image stabilization. It will even focus in complete darkness using the Lidar sensor. In many instances, it takes spectacular photos. Can it match a full frame camera with great lenses for wildlife and sports photography, No. But for most other types of photography, it's pretty good. It even shoots Raw. Also, the phone software includes Lightroom like post processing features to enhance the images. I was originally going to get a new camera to replace my 11 year old Nikon D5100 but decided to get a top of the line cell phone instead. I am quite happy with my decision.

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Jun 10, 2021 10:19:27   #
alexol
 
Edia wrote:
...snip...In many instances, it takes spectacular photos. Can it match a full frame camera with great lenses for wildlife and sports photography, No. But for most other types of photography, it's pretty good. It even shoots Raw. ....snip...


An obvious prediction is that over the next few years dedicated single purpose "cameras" will go away.

People seem to forget the almost unbelievable resolution and zoom capabilities of cameras used in satellites, many of which are very much smaller than you'd expect.

The resolution I can get today with my previous-gen Samsung blows the doors clean off any of the digital cameras of just a few years ago, and phone (& phone camera) technology is in its infancy.

Photographs and photography will thrive, but the old-school tech of dedicated cameras is dying right before our eyes, despite the desperate wishes of a few who insist on clinging on.

Sadly, this is in large part because so few people have enough curiousity to at least consider some of the amazingly advanced 3rd party photo apps available for Android and Apple devices.

Better zoom capabilities and higher actual resolutions are coming.

Phone camera technology is just beginning, making demonstrably huge leaps each iteration whereas conventional cameras have merely refined details with incremental changes over the last few years.

I can't help but feel that Ansel Adams would have been more thrilled by the latest phone cameras than by the latest single purpose units.

The ONLY reason I have a so-called serious camera is because I enjoy using it, not because I obtain better images. But then, for me, photography is a hobby, one of many, and one that I don't take very seriously - demonstrated obviously by the quality of results;). I only have to please myself, no clients, not even friends.

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Jun 10, 2021 13:50:29   #
DHenard Loc: Northeast Tennessee
 
I would love to be able to have my "main" camera and several lenses with me at all times but that is not possible. However, my cell phone, a couple year old Samsung S9 is in my pocket and takes decent pictures. So for me, my main camera is often my cellphone. I would rather have a decent picture from my phone than no picture at all.

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Jun 10, 2021 13:52:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DHenard wrote:
I would love to be able to have my "main" camera and several lenses with me at all times but that is not possible. However, my cell phone, a couple year old Samsung S9 is in my pocket and takes decent pictures. So for me, my main camera is often my cellphone. I would rather have a decent picture from my phone than no picture at all.



(mine is an S-III. I like the panos it does. I've yet to try my wife's S-10)

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Jun 10, 2021 13:56:49   #
DHenard Loc: Northeast Tennessee
 
Longshadow wrote:


(mine is an S-III. I like the panos it does. I've yet to try my wife's S-10)


I love the pan on the S9 and I'm sure the S10 is even better. I usually video with my phone as well instead of my camera.

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Jun 10, 2021 14:09:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DHenard wrote:
I love the pan on the S9 and I'm sure the S10 is even better. I usually video with my phone as well instead of my camera.

I'll be testing in in Acadia this Fall.
It will be interesting to see the results.

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Jun 10, 2021 14:41:33   #
alexol
 
Longshadow wrote:
I'll be testing in in Acadia this Fall.
It will be interesting to see the results.


Hopefully you'll be shocked, in a very positive way!

I'm a devout Android man, although the latest IPhone camera system is fabulous, as is the latest Samsung, the S21 Plus, but the one that really impresses me is the top of the range Pixel, especially it's night photo capability.

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Jun 10, 2021 14:42:30   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
alexol wrote:
Hopefully you'll be shocked, in a very positive way!

I'm a devout Android man, although the latest IPhone camera system is fabulous, as is the latest Samsung, the S21 Plus, but the one that really impresses me is the top of the range Pixel, especially it's night photo capability.


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Jun 10, 2021 14:44:16   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
inclinerr wrote: wrote:

In My Humble Opinion:
A cell phone takes a picture
A Camera takes a Photograph
rook2c4 wrote:
But only if your expectations of the cell phone camera are so low, you don't even bother to at least attempt to take "photographs" with them. A self fulfilling prophecy!

I was there myself not all that long ago. My kids started sending me fantastic pics, I told them yeah, but anything would look good on those little cell phone screens... I was happily surprised when I found out how wrong I was. My "real" camera's still get used some, but they will not be wearing out, that's for sure.

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Jun 10, 2021 23:08:38   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
inclinerr wrote:
In My Humble Opinion:

A cell phone takes a picture

A Camera takes a Photograph


Maybe in its earlier incarnations. Even with the current state-of-the-art in cellphone photo technology, not all photos will come out great. BUT… I've taken some photos that it is nearly impossible -- or, at the least, extremely difficult -- to tell if the photo was taken with an iPhone 12 Pro or a DSLR with good glass.

But, generally speaking, of course, you're correct.

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Jun 10, 2021 23:13:56   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
MY definition of a "real" camera? First, let me start of by saying even a box with a tiny hole punched in on one side and a sheet of film on the opposite side is a "real" camera". Everything from a Kodak "Instamatic" to a Nikon D6 or Canon D1X is a "real" camera.

Most of us just use the term to differentiate between our cell phone camera and our DSLR, or if we're using some low-end point-and-shoot. It's all fun and good. Nobody means anything special by it.

Normally, I prefer to use my DSLR and all the lenses. But, sometimes that just isn't practical, such as when it is r raining. My camera body may be weather-sealed, but my lenses aren't. However, the iPhone is water-resistant down to something like 20 feet. If the weather is bad, I'll use THAT rather than get my "real" gear wet.

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