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Jun 11, 2021 07:49:17   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Cell phone not a real camera?

It must be because it's
not a rhinoceros.

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Jun 11, 2021 08:35:02   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The camera in my new 5G cellular telephone produces images of 12 megabytes. Of course, I still prefer photographs using my Canon 6DII with the Sigma 100-400mm lens mounted to it. The 5G camera cannot match that combination but does provide a useful alternative for some photography.
Longshadow wrote:
Cell phone not a real camera?

It must be because it's
not a rhinoceros.

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Jun 11, 2021 12:02:05   #
Besperus Loc: Oregon
 
A real camera is the one that records the image. A friend once said of early cell phone cameras, tape a point and shoot to a bulldozer or use a cell phone? Not much difference. Better than only the memory of what you saw.

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Jun 11, 2021 12:36:34   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Cell phone not a real camera?

It must be because it's
not a rhinoceros.


Hence why most of us put “real” in quotation marks.

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Jun 11, 2021 12:43:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Hence why most of us put “real” in quotation marks.

Not enough though.

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Jun 11, 2021 12:44:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
anotherview wrote:
The camera in my new 5G cellular telephone produces images of 12 megabytes. Of course, I still prefer photographs using my Canon 6DII with the Sigma 100-400mm lens mounted to it. The 5G camera cannot match that combination but does provide a useful alternative for some photography.


I don't discount phone cameras at all.

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Jun 11, 2021 13:21:17   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Not enough though.


True

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Jun 11, 2021 14:16:14   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
or validation.
--Bob
l-fox wrote:
Pitiful, a cry for attention.

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Jun 11, 2021 16:20:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
or validation.
--Bob

As in "I have a real camera. ough!, ough!, ough!"?

Sad.

Who cares with what camera it was taken, or if someone spent hours getting it just right in an editor.

I don't, I care about the <resultant> picture merits.

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Jun 11, 2021 16:36:57   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Exactly!!!

I've often questioned the need to announce/declare what camera and lens were used to take a photograph. It's the final "print" that matters.

It's much the same with posting exposure data. Unless it's an instructional video, that information is useless, as well.
--Bob

Longshadow wrote:
As in "I have a real camera. ough!, ough!, ough!"?

Sad.

Who cares with what camera it was taken, or if someone spent hours getting it just right in an editor.

I don't, I care about the <resultant> picture merits.

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Jun 11, 2021 16:56:17   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
...
...
It's much the same with posting exposure data. Unless it's an instructional video, that information is useless, as well.
--Bob


Only if I'm going to that place at the same time of day, with the same camera & lens, composing the same shot, under the same weather conditions... Not!

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Jun 11, 2021 17:05:34   #
FZ200 Loc: New York
 
[quote=robertjerl]"real camera" = a dedicated camera with more features than the cameras built into most cellphones.

However the cellphone cameras are generally very good basic cameras. So good, and handy, that they have destroyed the low end of the camera market.

"So good, and handy, that they have destroyed the low end of the camera market."

True. But I continue to use my old & trusty Nikon Coolpix S2. All of 5 MB. Great for macros, weather-safe, with the zoom kept entirely inside. Good looking, too!

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Jun 11, 2021 17:08:59   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
[quote=FZ200]
robertjerl wrote:
"real camera" = a dedicated camera with more features than the cameras built into most cellphones.

However the cellphone cameras are generally very good basic cameras. So good, and handy, that they have destroyed the low end of the camera market.

"So good, and handy, that they have destroyed the low end of the camera market."

True. But I continue to use my old & trusty Nikon Coolpix S2. All of 5 MB. Great for macros, weather-safe, with the zoom kept entirely inside. Good looking, too!
"real camera" = a dedicated camera with ... (show quote)


Suggestion: when you delete parts of a quote, don't delete the trailing [/quote] command.

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Jun 11, 2021 17:11:06   #
FZ200 Loc: New York
 
Thanx!

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Jun 11, 2021 17:51:42   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Even then, without knowing my exposure techniques and, even more importantly, my processing techniques coupled with those exposure techniques, one would be at a loss to duplicate the photograph.
--Bob
Longshadow wrote:

Only if I'm going to that place at the same time of day, with the same camera & lens, composing the same shot, under the same weather conditions... Not!

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