Even then, without knowing my exposure techniques and, even more importantly, my processing techniques coupled with those exposure techniques, one would be at a loss to duplicate the photograph. --Bob
What ever you call it a photograph, picture, image or "whatever" it is intended to communicate. Whatever communicates an idea or feeling or elicits an esthetic response is a real photo and whatever took it is a real camera!
I often see a poster apologizing for showing an image from their cellphone because their real camera wasn’t available. What constitutes a “real” camera?
So all the "cameras in the 1800's and for most of 1900's were not real cameras. Would a Kodak Brownie that memorialized the lives of millions of people not be a real camera? How about a 110? If in the future, a top of the line Canon, Nikon, etc came out with capability of making and receiving phone calls, would it cease to be a camera? I have an idea. Why don't we study our craft to the extent that each of us cares to do and go out and about enjoying photography to the extent that we care to do so offering assistance and helpful commentary to our fellow practioners rather than passing judgment on others because of how they choose to practice this hobby or craft and regardless of the "tools" they use to do so.
So all the "cameras in the 1800's and for most of 1900's were not real cameras. Would a Kodak Brownie that memorialized the lives of millions of people not be a real camera? How about a 110? If in the future, a top of the line Canon, Nikon, etc came out with capability of making and receiving phone calls, would it cease to be a camera? I have an idea. Why don't we study our craft to the extent that each of us cares to do and go out and about enjoying photography to the extent that we care to do so offering assistance and helpful commentary to our fellow practioners rather than passing judgment on others because of how they choose to practice this hobby or craft and regardless of the "tools" they use to do so.
So all the "cameras in the 1800's and for mos... (show quote)
I often see a poster apologizing for showing an image from their cellphone because their real camera wasn’t available. What constitutes a “real” camera?
Folder. 120 film. Every thing else is pagan heresy.
So all the "cameras in the 1800's and for most of 1900's were not real cameras. Would a Kodak Brownie that memorialized the lives of millions of people not be a real camera? How about a 110? If in the future, a top of the line Canon, Nikon, etc came out with capability of making and receiving phone calls, would it cease to be a camera? I have an idea. Why don't we study our craft to the extent that each of us cares to do and go out and about enjoying photography to the extent that we care to do so offering assistance and helpful commentary to our fellow practioners rather than passing judgment on others because of how they choose to practice this hobby or craft and regardless of the "tools" they use to do so.
So all the "cameras in the 1800's and for mos... (show quote)
As I stated earlier in this discussion, yes, even a simple box with a tiny "pinhole" on one side and a sheet of film on the opposite side, is a "real" camera.
...If in the future, a top of the line Canon, Nikon, etc came out with capability of making and receiving phone calls, would it cease to be a camera? ...
This got me to thinking. I would bet Cell Phones take more pictures than make phone calls. My wife and I receive few phone calls, mostly spam calls we try to block. We get a ton of text messages. My kids do most contacts with everyone with text messages. Even the rare "phone" calls are done with Messenger or on the portal so voice is combined with video (Dick Tracy like).
My kids are in their mid 30's and I'm thinking only old curmudgeons even use cell phones as phones much, so they are already "camera's with phone capabilities...."
This got me to thinking. I would bet Cell Phones take more pictures than make phone calls. My wife and I receive few phone calls, mostly spam calls we try to block. We get a ton of text messages. My kids do most contacts with everyone with text messages. Even the rare "phone" calls are done with Messenger or on the portal so voice is combined with video (Dick Tracy like).
My kids are in their mid 30's and I'm thinking only old curmudgeons even use cell phones as phones much, so they are already "camera's with phone capabilities...."
This got me to thinking. I would bet Cell Phones ... (show quote)
My cellular communications/computing device usage: 1. calendar 2. grocery list 3. messaging 4. phone 5. weather 6. other apps 7. camera
My cellular communications/computing device usage: 1. calendar 2. grocery list 3. messaging 4. phone 5. weather 6. other apps 7. camera
The fact you use your PC (Portable Computer, aka, cell phone) more as a phone than as a camera indicates your an old curmudgeon. The fact you use it for messaging more than as a phone indicates your not THAT old of a curmudgeon.
The fact you use your PC (Portable Computer, aka, cell phone) more as a phone than as a camera indicates your an old curmudgeon. The fact you use it for messaging more than as a phone indicates your not THAT old of a curmudgeon.
Nah, I just favor the ergonomics of my DSLR more than the phone. Plus, I get 15Mp RAW out of my DSLR, only 8Mp and no RAW from my phone.