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May 21, 2021 12:56:30   #
srg
 
Canisdirus wrote:
1,000 lawyers (of course) & 10,000 doctors are now suing the CDC and WHO and other orgs. over the vaccine using the Nuremberg codes.

If the article is accurate, and I have no reason to believe 10k doctors don't know what they are talking about...what has been going on is very disturbing.

https://sorendreier.com/1000-lawyers-and-10000-doctors-have-filed-a-lawsuit-for-violations-of-the-nuremberg-code/


Thank you for bringing this to our attention. This is absolute proof positive beyond a shodow of a doubt that Covid-19 is a complete fabrication for nefarious reasons. Probably invented by Bill Gates and his Chinese buddies. Apparently, he does not have enough money and power. It may be decades before all the facts behind this are revealed. Never mind the large number of deaths and strange medical symptoms appearing all over the world. These are mere coincidences which nothing to do with Covid whatsoever. Could it be a conspiracy by the mask industry?

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May 21, 2021 13:13:05   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
gvarner wrote:
Hundreds of millions of Christians around the world believe in God. That does not make God a reality. Those lawyers and doctors can read the tea leaves and conclude whatever they want to conclude but it doesn’t make their conclusions valid. From my viewpoint as a layman, I watch the spread of the virus being severely curtailed as more and more Americans are being vaccinated. That’s my present reality.



bwa

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May 21, 2021 14:06:35   #
David NW Loc: Oregon, USA
 
This is one of those tales that help to spread misinformation. It has little validity and there are, of course, bound to be plenty of exceptions that one can seize on if you want. After all, the vaccines are not 100% effective and yes there are those that have severe reactions to the covid vaccine as they do with all medications. You do the math: 5% of 150 Million are 7.5 Million exceptions. I am sad that link was posted here:(

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May 21, 2021 14:33:00   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
David NW wrote:
This is one of those tales that help to spread misinformation. It has little validity and there are, of course, bound to be plenty of exceptions that one can seize on if you want. After all, the vaccines are not 100% effective and yes there are those that have severe reactions to the covid vaccine as they do with all medications. You do the math: 5% of 150 Million are 7.5 Million exceptions. I am sad that link was posted here:(


I am sad, too, that folks fall for this crap. My family is fully vaccinated. Even if it doesn’t keep us all healthy, it was worth the side effects.

Fear is the number one tool used by fascists. Total BS is another. Apparently, the more outrageous the story, the more gullible people will fall for it.

Of course, there’s no good reason kids believe in the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, Santa, or the Great Pumpkin, either, other than they are bribed with a promise of LOOT. (No wonder PTL was nicknamed the “Pass the Loot Club.”)

How did we get to this point where it’s so easy to get innocent fools to believe the unbelievable?

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May 21, 2021 14:33:52   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
srt101fan wrote:
I honestly don't understand why you don't understand what I said. I was responding to your statement that COVID doesn't kill. If you mean by that that it's not the actual cause of death, then car crashes don't kill people either. So it is a matter of definition - how you define cause of death.....


And actually his contention that the virus doesn’t kill directly is a fallacy. Yes the immune response going berserk has resulted in deaths but most people that have been killed by it have weak immune systems. The “spikes” on the virus attach to ACE2 receptors in your cells to gain entry and take command of the cells, killing some of them. Your lungs become inflamed making it hard to breath. Once it’s in your lungs it uses the cells it hijacked to reproduce. It can get in your bloodstream and eventually infect other organs. Lack of immune response can be worse than overrreaction if an immune response.

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May 21, 2021 15:11:23   #
M1911 Loc: DFW Metromess
 
My lab mice have all refused to take the covid vaccine until the human testing is completed.

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May 21, 2021 15:11:44   #
BigChicken
 
That's a long list of poor thinking.

Most of the items are based on setting the standard for effectiveness at absolute perfection. Typical of those looking for an excuse to do or not do something.

Vaccination is optional. The "Nuremberg" items are based on forced medical procedures.

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May 21, 2021 16:14:12   #
williejoha
 
What a bunch of BS.
WJH

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May 21, 2021 16:25:28   #
Ollieboy
 
I strongly beleive that the first round of Covid deaths were "low hanging fruit". I beleive that these people had seriously underlying issues that the regular flu would have caused the same outcome. The Covid cause of death was used for non Covid deaths too frequently. Whenever $ is brought into the equation (testing fees and so on) all facts are suspect. I beleive more truths will be exposed as time passes.

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May 21, 2021 17:19:10   #
Canisdirus
 
srg wrote:
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. This is absolute proof positive beyond a shodow of a doubt that Covid-19 is a complete fabrication for nefarious reasons. Probably invented by Bill Gates and his Chinese buddies. Apparently, he does not have enough money and power. It may be decades before all the facts behind this are revealed. Never mind the large number of deaths and strange medical symptoms appearing all over the world. These are mere coincidences which nothing to do with Covid whatsoever. Could it be a conspiracy by the mask industry?
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. This... (show quote)


It's not proof of anything.
It's just a lawsuit.

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May 21, 2021 18:21:18   #
DaleBrown
 
When you become forced to vaccinate to travel, educate yourself, or denied entry to something based on whether you are vaccinated or not. Then it becomes “forced” conformation.
Being eligible to compete for a livelyhood, or to continue your employment is only contingent upon your personally private medical status with regard to total COVID vaccination then again it becomes “ forced” conformity.
Mandated to wear a facemask if you are not fully vaccinated would be a physical display as to a persons vaccination status as it relates to ONLY Covid-19. Thus a public shaming and shunning and the display of a mask would let all know that they are not vaccinated! One might as well wear a sign and inscribe a number on their wrists. Again the fear of public notice would “force” them to conform against their will.
These are just a few instances where forces are trying to “force”a free person to do something that they may have reason to believe is not good for them.

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May 21, 2021 19:27:10   #
ShelbyDave Loc: Lone Rock, WI
 
gvarner wrote:
Hundreds of millions of Christians around the world believe in God. That does not make God a reality. Those lawyers and doctors can read the tea leaves and conclude whatever they want to conclude but it doesn’t make their conclusions valid. From my viewpoint as a layman, I watch the spread of the virus being severely curtailed as more and more Americans are being vaccinated. That’s my present reality.



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May 21, 2021 19:45:36   #
SweetPea
 
Swiss cheese...full of holes

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May 21, 2021 19:56:18   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DaleBrown wrote:
When you become forced to vaccinate to travel, educate yourself, or denied entry to something based on whether you are vaccinated or not. Then it becomes “forced” conformation.
Being eligible to compete for a livelyhood, or to continue your employment is only contingent upon your personally private medical status with regard to total COVID vaccination then again it becomes “ forced” conformity.
Mandated to wear a facemask if you are not fully vaccinated would be a physical display as to a persons vaccination status as it relates to ONLY Covid-19. Thus a public shaming and shunning and the display of a mask would let all know that they are not vaccinated! One might as well wear a sign and inscribe a number on their wrists. Again the fear of public notice would “force” them to conform against their will.
These are just a few instances where forces are trying to “force”a free person to do something that they may have reason to believe is not good for them.
When you become forced to vaccinate to travel, edu... (show quote)


I am all in favor of freedom. But our rights to exist and act freely do not include the right to potential endangerment of others. Endangering others by being a potential super spreader of a deadly virus is immoral behavior.

I’m all in favor of companies and schools requiring vaccination of employees and students. I’m all in favor of requiring masks for the unvaccinated, and proof of vaccination for those who don’t wear them.

For decades, we have required school age children to be vaccinated against polio, smallpox, diphtheria, measles, tetanus, pertussis… We can prevent shingles, HPV, many strains of pneumonia, and the flu. Add COVID-19 to that list.

How would you like to learn that you had asymptomatic COVID 19 and subsequently infected a church choir full of people, killing the pastor and several others, and sending dozens of fellow members to the hospital? Would that be “fair” just because you didn’t want to get vaccinated? Are the rights of your fellow members subservient to your own?

Certain individual liberties are limited to protect the rights of the masses to live safely. As Spock said in one of the Star Trek movies, as he was dying from radiation endured when he saved the ship by stopping it from exploding, “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.”

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May 21, 2021 20:08:29   #
srt101fan
 
burkphoto wrote:
I am all in favor of freedom. But our rights to exist and act freely do not include the right to potential endangerment of others. Endangering others by being a potential super spreader of a deadly virus is immoral behavior.

I’m all in favor of companies and schools requiring vaccination of employees and students. I’m all in favor of requiring masks for the unvaccinated, and proof of vaccination for those who don’t wear them.

For decades, we have required school age children to be vaccinated against polio, smallpox, diphtheria, measles, tetanus, pertussis… We can prevent shingles, HPV, many strains of pneumonia, and the flu. Add COVID-19 to that list.

How would you like to learn that you had asymptomatic COVID 19 and subsequently infected a church choir full of people, killing the pastor and several others, and sending dozens of fellow members to the hospital? Would that be “fair” just because you didn’t want to get vaccinated? Are the rights of your fellow members subservient to your own?

Certain individual liberties are limited to protect the rights of the masses to live safely. As Spock said in one of the Star Trek movies, as he was dying from radiation endured when he saved the ship by stopping it from exploding, “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.”
I am all in favor of freedom. But our rights to ex... (show quote)


Good thoughts, well expressed, Bill. I'll gladly sit with you on this one. So frustrating and sad that we even have to have this discussion....

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