gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

You need to explain the flood of fluid in the lungs created by the body's i****e s****m to fight the c****av***s plus all the other damage that it does to the other organs. Those effects would not occur without the presence of the v***s.

srt101fan

"C***D doesn't k**l anyone". By that implied definition of causes of death, neither do car crashes, gun shots, stabbings, drownings, lightening strikes, natural disasters....

It is a matter of definition. I choose to accept the language in common use.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

No, but in context and with no other supporting data it makes the message even more questionable.

srron Loc: Courtice,On.

Reports from doctors indicate that there have been about 4 thousand deaths attributed to the v*****es, but in the past, 2 deaths from v*****es was enough to pull a v*****e out of circulation.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Falling has never k**led anybody but landing has. 😜🤪

pendennis

I clearly stated that the body's immune response was capable of k*****g the person. Massive immune responses actually cause attacks by i****e s****m components overwhelming the lungs, heart, kidneys, etc. Pneumonia is a reaction to the influx of t-cells and white blood cell increases.

The v***s causes those immune responses. Please read my entire post.

Read "The Great Influenza..." by James Barry. It explains, in great detail, the actions of the human i****e s****m.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

And exactly where are these “reports from doctors”? When they had 6 people with blood clotting issues from the Johnson & Johnson v*****e they temporarily pulled it for further review. There was a report of 3,000 people dying within 30 days of the v*****e but no link found between the v*****e and the deaths. When you consider that the earliest recipients of the v*****e were the elderly and those with other high risk factors the rate of morbidity is what would be expected.

pendennis

You are being intentionally obtuse. I never stated that catastrophic causes didn't cause death. They clearly do, and I mentioned that in my post.

It's not a matter of definition. Even in catastrophic events, death remains a process, albeit sped up by the event(s). When a person dies of severe chest trauma due to a vehicle collision, a chain of events t***spires to cause the heart to stop beating, lungs to stop functioning, etc. Those events may only take seconds, but it's still a process.

Read "The Great Influenza..." by John Barry. He very well explains the systematic collapse of the body's i****e s****m by the over-reaction by the body's own i****e s****m.

berchman Loc: South Central PA

Did you verify that you got C***d via a PCR test? If not, it could have been anything.

bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX

Doctor's info on v******tions:
https://www.brighteon.com/85761cb5-b202-4d89-b36d-cc920319ab73
Note: long video, 54 minutes ... if you have the time.

Also, on the idea of V******tion Passports: https://www.brighteon.com/24d6935c-9170-463e-b289-117c0a4bc575 ... this one is only 5 minutes.

berchman Loc: South Central PA

She's an orthopedist, not an immunologist. The web host is a typical conspiracy theory promulgator.

Canisdirus

Heh...you really have some issues...

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Media Bias Fact Check says, "Overall, we rate The European Union Times a far-right biased conspiracy website that also publishes f**e news and promotes hatred toward immigrants, minorities, and Jews."

I could not find ONE media rating service that counts it as a credible source.

Some erstwhile conspiracy theorists might want to see this list: https://www.cjr.org/f**e-beta

"I read something on the Internet. OH MY GOD, IT's GOTTA BE TRUE!!!!"

Not.

srt101fan

I honestly don't understand why you don't understand what I said. I was responding to your statement that C***D doesn't k**l. If you mean by that that it's not the actual cause of death, then car crashes don't k**l people either. So it is a matter of definition - how you define cause of death.....

fetzler Loc: North West PA

It would seem that the article contains a lot of junk thinking. This does not mean,however, that the CDC and WHO are not capable of politically motivated agendas.


In the US the FDA is responsible to determine the "safety and efficacy " of drugs. This process can lengthy and rather formal. Safety never means that there zero bad outcomes. A cancer drug does not have to be as safe and a drug for the sniffles provided that the benefit is substantial. (e.g. you get to live). This is why drugs are taken under a physicians supervision.

As a generalization we know that v*****es are quite effective. Smallpox, for instance, has been eliminated.

You can be sure the P****r and the other companies have done everything to ensure safety and effectiveness. Release of an unsafe drug can destroy a company. Emergency use means that some long term and large clinical trials have been done. The available data are extremely encouraging as FDA has given its OK.

At least in the US it is considered unethical to force treatment on anyone. In other countries some governments can force you do do anything they want. So, no, you don't have to take the v*****e. If you then die of C***D, it is your problem. Folks die all the time as they have chosen not to pursue effective treatment.

It true that the PCR tests are oversensitive thus there are more reported cases than clinically significant cases. It is also true that there are more C***D deaths reported than the number of people who actually died of C***D. A Health Care facility gets more money for a C***D death. Blame our less than bright politicians for this one.

Has anyone (except likely the Chinese) done anything immoral? Very likely not. The activities of the WHO and CDC do likely deserve review,however.