Photography on Public Land- Town Park (Page 5): Why didn’t the parent that was there speak to the official & explain you were taking pictures of their kid at the parents request?

whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.

forensics7 wrote:

Thank you. Yes, I am double checking on who actually owns the land/park. Yes- the parents gave me permission and one was there.

Why didn’t the parent that was there speak to the official & explain you were taking pictures of their kid at the parents request?

scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR

forensics7 wrote:

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scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR

If the father of the boy whose photos you are taking is present, he should speak with the soccer club president about it. If he is not present, then he should still speak to the soccer club president about it. Sometimes a good conversation with the right people does wonders. Taking pics of kids is a sensitive issue. I can understand some parents not wanting some random stranger taking pics of their kids, but I would (naively?) presume the parents know each other, at least those on the same team.

cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX

forensics7 wrote:

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Go to the next game. Stand beside father. Hand father camera and tell him to click away. Or better yet, tell him to take out his cell phone. Billions of people do it every day, and call it photography.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

stan miller wrote:

It seems that our Country is losing part of what made us a great place to live. I can recall a time, I am sure that many of you can, that a person could take Photos just about anywhere or time they wanted to and no one was concerned or cared. I am lost for a reason as to why it has come to this.

I have followed auto racing since the '60's. Back then most every series had rule books that were thinner then the comic books us kids all collected. Every race though somebody tried to circumvent the few rules that there were so more rules got written to prevent cheating. Meaning that there were now more rules to be circumvented, etc, etc, etc. Needless to say, today's rule books are far bigger and 'policing' within the sport is much more intense. Just like society as a whole. The problem will be solved when people stop looking for a way to get an unfair edge on the other guy. Or gal. In other words, never.

ELNikkor

Not to play devil's advocate, as I think you should be able to take photos of the game, but even if you are specifically taking photos of the neighbor's child, inevitably members of the other team, or his team, will also be in the photos. The objecting person may be trying to protect the "privacy" of the children who are not the neighbor's child.

forensics7 Loc: Davidson, NC

Excellent- thanks for the really good info. I am now more confident going back and see if they approach me again. I appreciate the time you took to share this information too. Good points about the hired photographer and how you handled that.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

ELNikkor wrote:

Not to play devil's advocate, as I think you should be able to take photos of the game, but even if you are specifically taking photos of the neighbor's child, inevitably members of the other team, or his team, will also be in the photos. The objecting person may be trying to protect the "privacy" of the children who are not the neighbor's child.

Nothing wrong with playing Devils Advocate. But just as with any other photographs there are sometimes other people in the scene. So long as the photos are not sold or used for some illicit purpose where is the difference between those pictures and pictures anywhere else where children are present, Disneyland, Grand Canyon, school graduation photos, weddings and so on?

Dennis

goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl

dennis2146 wrote:

Nothing wrong with playing Devils Advocate. But just as with any other photographs there are sometimes other people in the scene. So long as the photos are not sold or used for some illicit purpose where is the difference between those pictures and pictures anywhere else where children are present, Disneyland, Grand Canyon, school graduation photos, weddings and so on?

Dennis

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Fully Agreed Dennis BUT, as the OP, Forensic said... the complainer was European

They have a totally different mindset.

I have dealt with it in Paris and know from personal experience

In this case, he - the European - is wanting to impose his values on American citizens and Culture

Therein lies the Rub

Cheers
George Veazey
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scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR

Well put

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

goldstar46 wrote:

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Fully Agreed Dennis BUT, as the OP, Forensic said... the complainer was European

They have a totally different mindset.

I have dealt with it in Paris and know from personal experience

In this case, he - the European - is wanting to impose his values on American citizens and Culture

Therein lies the Rub

Cheers
George Veazey
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Yes I did get that part. Yes I completely agree with you. I have only been challenged once or twice in my civilian life. Both times, years ago, the person asked if he should call the police. Of course I urged them to call the police. Neither one did. I knew I was well within the law and what my rights were. They blistered a bit and moved on. I encourage everyone, if you are talking photos of family in a public setting to go right ahead. If the police come offer to show them photos. Transparency beats bluster most of the time.

Thanks for your comments.

Dennis

Schoee Loc: Europe

goldstar46 wrote:

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Fully Agreed Dennis BUT, as the OP, Forensic said... the complainer was European

They have a totally different mindset.

I have dealt with it in Paris and know from personal experience

In this case, he - the European - is wanting to impose his values on American citizens and Culture

Therein lies the Rub

Cheers
George Veazey
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For all you know he may well be a US Citizen. Just because he has an accent (more than 350 languages are spoken in USA) you should not besmirch the European continent of 450+ million people. This is about one petty official who does not understand the rules for photographs and mistakenly thinks he is doing the right thing by the kids. He is just ignorant of the rules.
Just as we don't believe all the stereotypes we see of Americans, please don't try to put all Europeans in some little box in your mind.
After all you are probably descended from Europeans.

goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl

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jrm21

The original post indicated that the OP was taking photos of a friend's child at the friend's request. Later posts state the OP is selling photos to others. This changes the activity from the personal to the commercial realm.

Commercial photography may (or may not) be subject to different rules in this situation. When researching the topic, the commercial purpose should be noted. There are "public" situations where personal photography is allowed, but commercial photography is not.

traderjohn Loc: New York City

forensics7 wrote:

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I would be guided by what the police dept told you.