Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

I can't tell the difference between images shot on those different cameras. And I have been shooting DSLR and Mirrorless and looking at those images for years. What does that mean I still think again?

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Every manufacturer does firmware updates, not just Fuji.

neillaubenthal

Wander into your local camera store and check the menus out…I'm a Nikon guy and I find the Sony and Canon menu system confusing and difficult to use. That might be a lack of familiarity but I like the Nikon way better.

The biggest advantage of mirrorless…IMO at least…is not the lack of a mirror but the lack of development effort being spent on DSLRs. Today's sensors, AF algorithms, and feature sets are better than they were 4 years ago and as we all know technology marches on so doing a tech refresh on 4 or 5 year old gear will bring along that better sensor and AF stuff and also bring along the mirrorless which does make the body smaller and lighter than a DSLR generally and less mechanically complex…plus you get the EVF which also has some advantages although it does take a bit of getting used to. Going mirrorless is just part of what you get with the newer tech.

That said…I bought my wife a Z50 for Xmas last and it's quite nice…very light and will be an excellent travel rig. I also have myself a Z7II on order…but in my case it was more of an "I'm on a D7500 which is 5 year old tech and the newer models have much better AF algorithms and smarts to help get the shot"…and mirrorless just comes along with that. OTOH…they're still making the 850 so it…like the D7500…is still the 'current' DSLR but it's still 5 year old tech, has a single Expeed 5 processor instead of the dual 6s that the Z7II and Z6II have…and better processors mean better AF goodies and smarts to help get the shot.

If your 850 is still doing it for you then upgrading might not make sense. If it isn't…and you can afford it…and the CFO allows it…then sure, upgrade to one. While my D7500 is still doing it for me…on our first outing with my wife's new Z50 she got keepers in the same situation with the same subject that I just couldn't get focus on fast enough with the d7500 and even though I had the 500PF on the body the Z50 grabbed focus on egrets moving against the background grass and foliage much quicker than the D7500 did…but that's not unexpected with 5 year newer tech in the body.

Just like rangefinders replaced view cameras…which were then replaced by SLRs…which were then supplanted by DSLRs…mirrorless will elbow the SLR aside and 3 or 4 years from now you won't be able to get a DSLR outside of some niche sales…it's just the price of progress.

neillaubenthal

We do have people that stay the opposite though…only through the elimination of your mirror can you achieve good images. It's BS of course…80% of a good image comes from 4 inches behind the viewfinder and the vast majority of the final 20% can be accomplished with a DSLR or a mirrorless.

mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma

I went micro 4/3s with an Olympus. You couldn’t pay me to go back! I adore my camera.

pego101

Yes

lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle

I liked and agreed with everything you said except your first statement. There are a whole lot of us who can not just wonder into our local camera shop. For me, it is a minimum two hour drive to the nearest camera shop. There are only three that I know of within a 2-3 hour drive. These trip have to be planned and prepared for. And no, I do not consider Best Buy a camera shop. Be very thankful for what you have.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

That was sort of my point. The D810 gave me capability to do something I couldn't do before. But really, I just wanted the others.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

One of the things I noticed right away while trying out the Z7 is that its menus are almost identical to the D850 's menus. There's a lot of other commonality as well. When the time comes, I'll definitely be focusing on the Nikon Z cameras, whether the Z7 or something perhaps a little newer with more capabilities.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

I have both technologies (DSLR and Mirror-less in Nikon). My primary DSLR's are D850 and D500 (also have D4, D800, D810 and D7200), on the Mirror-Less my two cameras are Z6 II and Z7 II. The main advantages for me are auto eye detect both for human and animal and being able for the camera to track in AF-C (not available in DSLR's), next I like the new lenses for the Z cameras which are far superior to the G or E lenses.

IDguy Loc: Idaho

The image in the viewfinder isn't what you get with a DSLR. The image is taken after the mirror flips up.

Sorry, no detectible delay with EVFs. You clearly haven't tried one. More nonsense by the unknowing.

As I noted earlier, the EVF may be the biggest advantage of the new cameras. It provides huge advantages over an OVF including what you see is what you get, flexible information in the viewfinder, and features local focus peaking and eye detection that you have to go to the LCD for in DSLRs...and the LCDs are crap in bright light.

Although I also appreciate lighter weight.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Mirrorless is a way of life. Of knowing that light reaches a sensor having never been reflected.

IDguy Loc: Idaho

Also true in a DSLR after you've waited through the mirror getting out of the way.

Do any DSLRs have IBIS?

bshine3742 Loc: Florida

what about the sony alpha 7r iv mirrorless camera ? with a sony 200-600 eos lens,

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

The viewfinder is showing me the scene in real-time. I've noticed the delay in the EVF cameras I've tried. So, I'm knowing and it's not nonsense. That alone is annoying.
--Bob