Get it right vs fix it in post...
Shooting in Raw Thomas 902, is a starting point. In Adobe Camera Raw, you can change many attributes of the raw file and also select the correct lens profiles. Having made the necessary adjustments such as white balance, colour temperature etc, selecting the Auto button which corrects the basics makes a significant difference to the picture. In most cases that’s enough but obviously the basic adjustments are still available to fine tune.
In a earlier post it was stated that you can’t adjust exposure or colour balance in specific areas of a raw file but this is not true. In camera raw, using a brush and masking it is possible to adjust every aspect of processing in very small to very large areas
Rongnongno wrote:
Another can of worm I am willing to open...
What is 'get it right' exactly?
Pray tell because for me, it only has to do with composition and exposure of the subject - at the expense of other things -. If a detail gets in the way, I just don't care, "I can fix it". What is the detail? That can be anything from a shadow to an object that just does not belong there. If I know I can remove in seconds in PP, I just do not care.
What is 'fix it post'?
I have no clue either. To PP is part of a process, not an end to it. Meaning that I will likely make changes to the overall image that are not necessarily drastic. In fact most of my changes are subtle. Removing the object mentioned above is part of my process as I always inspect my image for 'photobombers'.
Oh, and what happens to "I shoot for PP"??? in the following examples... Using a chroma key, shooting to create a B&W image, to create a composite... Are they not 'fix it with PP'?
So, for me, get it right vs fix it in post is not a religion. I would not recommend either because in both cases promoting one or the other is simply detrimental to the final product. BOTH are needed, even if 'get it right' is a priority. (Remember I am a staunch enemy of cropping/composition after the fact...)
Result? It depends.
Another can of worm I am willing to open... br br... (
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every time I look at what I've done, I want to change it again. What's up with that?
It was a timely matter before I knew what PS was. Interior shooting, setting up lights, taking light readings, sample shots. All to get that one shot.
Now I spend less time at a project and take many more pictures.
Nicholas J DeSciose wrote:
Terrific reply
Thank you, glad you liked it.
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you need me to teach you how to adjust the as-captured AUTO WB result in your RAW editor, just commit to 2-hours training, my rate is $50 / hr ...
Btw, my previous comment wasn’t meant to be the least bit snarky. I was being sincere. I find your postings very informative and helpful, love your photos especially of animals, and enjoy your humorous comments on occasion.
Sharona wrote:
Btw, my previous comment wasn’t meant to be the least bit snarky. I was being sincere. I find your postings very informative and helpful, love your photos especially of animals, and enjoy your humorous comments on occasion.
No worries. I was being snarky to a mis-reading of my original post in my remedial training offer to a very accomplished portrait photographer. Glad to hear my goofy contributions are appreciated.
MikeT9 wrote:
Shooting in Raw Thomas 902, is a starting point. In Adobe Camera Raw, you can change many attributes of the raw file and also select the correct lens profiles. Having made the necessary adjustments such as white balance, colour temperature etc, selecting the Auto button which corrects the basics makes a significant difference to the picture. In most cases that’s enough but obviously the basic adjustments are still available to fine tune.
In a earlier post it was stated that you can’t adjust exposure or colour balance in specific areas of a raw file but this is not true. In camera raw, using a brush and masking it is possible to adjust every aspect of processing in very small to very large areas
Shooting in Raw Thomas 902, is a starting point. I... (
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I said adjustments to specific areas can't be done in the camera. Of course it can be done when processing the RAW file, but that is post processing.
CHG_CANON wrote:
No worries. I was being snarky to a mis-reading of my original post in my remedial training offer to a very accomplished portrait photographer. Glad to hear my goofy contributions are appreciated.
An accomplished photographer here is at times truly deserving of a snarky comeback. I have seen and admired his stunning work however.
Toment wrote:
every time I look at what I've done, I want to change it again. What's up with that?
OCD, anyone who cares about anything is the same way...
Photograph are never good enough and so are writing, painting, sculpting... and so many other things. One has to decide 'ENOUGH ALREADY!!!'... Something my wife says often enough...
I had a purist say to me once "I'd throw a frame away before I'd crop it". I humbly disagree. with the plethora of pixels we have to work with these days I feel it's a mistake not to have room to crop. That's not completely true when I have my D850 on a tripod and I'm leisurely framing the composition, but when I am on the move or shooting a moving target I focus my attention on aperture, shutter, and focus point. I shoot raw with auto-wb except for those times when you are looking for a specific result in extraordinary conditions (night, long exposures, astro, etc.). For me, having the most to work with in post gives me the best result.
UHH should create a new section specifically for "polarizing" topics such as "mirrorless vs dslr", "RAW vs JPEG", "to post process or not to post process", and there are probably others but these are the ones most likely to create never ending threads. Create the new section for all the EXPERTS here can kick sand in each others faces all they want because they are undoubtedly CORRECT???
I like the following quote and am a subscriber, "If Photoshop is the answer, you are asking the wrong question!" (Dean Farrell) To this end I experienced the following: Was at Brookfield Zoo with my new Nikon D70s; I was waiting to take a shot of what would prove to be THE last elephant Brookfield Zoo would ever have; I was waiting because there was a post in the way, it was directly in line with the shot I wanted. Standing next to me was another person taking pics except he turned to me and I quote, "I'll just fix it with Photoshop." I waited, got the shot I wanted, all I did a few years later when I got Lightroom was to crop the image some.
Do whatever the heck you want with YOUR images; none of my business. Yet, when I look at any number of so called outstanding images I have to ask myself "How much of the shot is real and how much is the work of someone who has manipulated the image with software?" I am a minimalist when it comes to photography; I try to nail the shot as best as I can when I compose and press the shutter button. My personal favorite annoyance....sky replacement! That ain't how I remember the shot!!! You may be able to replace the sky yet there are some subtleties to the image that are created by the sky that are not easy to achieve when one begins to manipulate the image in post processing.
EastWest wrote:
I had a purist say to me once "I'd throw a frame away before I'd crop it". I humbly disagree. with the plethora of pixels we have to work with these days I feel it's a mistake not to have room to crop. That's not completely true when I have my D850 on a tripod and I'm leisurely framing the composition, but when I am on the move or shooting a moving target I focus my attention on aperture, shutter, and focus point. I shoot raw with auto-wb except for those times when you are looking for a specific result in extraordinary conditions (night, long exposures, astro, etc.). For me, having the most to work with in post gives me the best result.
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What was he shooting with, a 2MP camera? I don't understand the tie-one-hand-behind-your-back approach to photography.
Photography is not a sport like golf where the low score wins. Rather, the measure of success is success. One great image is an undefeated season. It doesn't matter how many <Delete>s occurred prior to that image. Michael Jordan wasn't the greatest because he practiced really hard. He's the greatest because he has six championships and no defeats.
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