On-Camera flash (daylight)
Apr 15, 2021 09:10:12 #
wide2tele wrote:
Here is an example of an image that would not be possible without on-camera fill.
It goes beyond what was discussed in this thread so far.
It goes beyond what was discussed in this thread so far.
Some will criticize this shot as blurry or missed focus or whatever. Me, I am a big fan of dragging the shutter for this kind of image. You can almost feel and smell the saliva dripping.
Apr 15, 2021 09:10:41 #
I very frequently put a flash on the top of my 5DII. Even in bright sun, people will often have shadows around their eyes. In darken woods, the flash helps there too.
You should try it.
You should try it.
Apr 15, 2021 09:14:38 #
wide2tele wrote:
Hi Thomas, br I’ve always been a big user of flash... (show quote)
"I asked the question as I rarely notice on-camera fill in recent photos."
By "rarely notice" I assume you mean in photos by others since you would know if you used it and probably be able to see the effects. If others have used it well, you should not notice. Fill should always be subtle and the opposite of noticeable.
Apr 15, 2021 09:21:58 #
Rongnongno wrote:
I am sorry, but I love the 'robbing life modifier'... (show quote)
Photographing people in harsh midday sunlight is a necessity. Making the best of it by use of flash is a job skill. You knock it ? I don’t. As mentioned, it has earned me hundreds of thousands $$$ so I know the improvement in results. You seem to have a very uninformed dilettante’s attitude toward it.
Apr 15, 2021 09:24:21 #
jerryc41 wrote:
If I need a flash, I generally use the built-in. I would avoid buying a camera without one - like Nikon's replacement for my D750.
Flash power and distance have a direct correlation. Built-in flashes are neither very powerful nor very useful. Having a built-in unit also causes your camera to be less waterproof, which is why most "Pro" model cameras don't have them. Shooting the Grand Canyon at night, with a portable flash, is a useless endeavor. On the other hand, I do make an attempt to use just a slight bit of flash outdoors, especially if it is sunny. This allows me to better balance my lighting and POP colors. Call it Outdoor fill-flash; many cameras have a setting just for this! Best of luck.
Apr 15, 2021 09:31:42 #
User ID wrote:
Photographing people in harsh midday sunlight is a necessity. Making the best of it by use of flash is a job skill. You knock it ? I don’t. As mentioned, it has earned me hundreds of thousands $$$ so I know the improvement in results. You seem to have a very uninformed dilettante’s attitude toward it.
Don't often agree with you, but COME ON use of fill flash is a basic photography skill.
Understanding the exposure triangle should make anyone with a mind say "OH! I should use a fill flash here!"
Apr 15, 2021 09:32:55 #
jerryc41 wrote:
If I need a flash, I generally use the built-in. I would avoid buying a camera without one - like Nikon's replacement for my D750.
I'm with Jerry on this one. It won't help shooting landscapes or bif. But for shooting close in daylight, it can be very useful. Taking people snapshots, it takes out the shadows under eyes and hats. Also gives a better s.o.c picture if you don't do much post processing. I use it daytime on my cell all the time.
Try it, you may like the results
Apr 15, 2021 09:47:45 #
We just had a family beach party...bright afternoon on Miami Beach. Thanks to my SB800 for fill (TTL BL mode) I got great results. Day or night, I don't leave home without it! I used my old D80....Didn't want to get sand in my 7100...It's still great.
Apr 15, 2021 09:58:54 #
dsmeltz wrote:
Don't often agree with you, but ..........
Don't often agree with you, but ..........
A day that will live in infamy ;-)
FWIW I’m experimenting with LED panel fill, instead of a flash. For users who are mystified by flash (maybe 3/4 of UHH ?) a constant and plainly visible fill such as an LED source might be the solution.
Apr 15, 2021 10:04:44 #
dsmeltz wrote:
Some will criticize this shot as blurry or missed focus or whatever. Me, I am a big fan of dragging the shutter for this kind of image. You can almost feel and smell the saliva dripping.
I never considered that when posting the pic but you are absolutely correct!
It’s just another reflection imo of how little people understand about photography because of the focus on tech.
Apr 15, 2021 10:06:11 #
dsmeltz wrote:
Fill flash.
And it is situational. A little soft fill shooting someone in shadow (like under a tree) with a bright background can save you even if it is casual travel photography. Outdoor events really require some fill especially in a tent.
And it is situational. A little soft fill shooting someone in shadow (like under a tree) with a bright background can save you even if it is casual travel photography. Outdoor events really require some fill especially in a tent.
Apr 15, 2021 10:07:27 #
dsmeltz wrote:
"I asked the question as I rarely notice on-camera fill in recent photos."
By "rarely notice" I assume you mean in photos by others since you would know if you used it and probably be able to see the effects. If others have used it well, you should not notice. Fill should always be subtle and the opposite of noticeable.
By "rarely notice" I assume you mean in photos by others since you would know if you used it and probably be able to see the effects. If others have used it well, you should not notice. Fill should always be subtle and the opposite of noticeable.
Depends on the experience of the photographer. An experienced photographer will still pick if flash was used majority of the time.
Apr 15, 2021 10:16:03 #
DavidPine
Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
wide2tele wrote:
Maybe I'm just missing the topics but it appears daylight flash is rarely used.
How many people go out with a hot shoe mounted flash attached to their camera in daylight?
Why do you or why do you not?
How many people go out with a hot shoe mounted flash attached to their camera in daylight?
Why do you or why do you not?
More often than not, flashes are used off-camera and are used to overcome harsh sunlight. Often with modifiers and high-speed-sync being employed. Some photographers use the shoe and others do not. Unless I have a ceiling or wall to bounce off I wouldn't use the shoe for direct illumination.
Apr 15, 2021 10:20:25 #
User ID wrote:
A day that will live in infamy ;-)
FWIW I’m experimenting with LED panel fill, instead of a flash. For users who are mystified by flash (maybe 3/4 of UHH ?) a constant and plainly visible fill such as an LED source might be the solution.
FWIW I’m experimenting with LED panel fill, instead of a flash. For users who are mystified by flash (maybe 3/4 of UHH ?) a constant and plainly visible fill such as an LED source might be the solution.
I have been lusting after an led panel (and a mirrorless camera). But she who must be obeyed says no new purchases until after retirement and relocation. Oddly that does not seem to apply to anything she wants to buy. Hmmmm????
Apr 15, 2021 10:24:48 #
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