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Apr 4, 2021 17:15:35   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
You need to look at the advances of mirrorless cameras. Sony just released a camera that will do 30 frames per second. With the high MP and frame rate it's like pulling stills from a video. I do mostly wildlife. Personally I'm switching after I return from my 3 week photography vacation, never wise to take new equipment on vacation to learn.. Sony and mirrorless is the future, you can jump on board or not....I've waited to long myself..

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Apr 4, 2021 17:22:57   #
Canisdirus
 
John Hicks wrote:
So all the great photographs taken with DSLR cameras are not as good as a photograph taken with a mirrorless camera , I am sorry I do not believe it .


No one is saying that.
The facts are...DSLR's had their day... a very long day indeed.
But mirrorless has now surpassed them in many ways.
ALL of the R&D monies now go towards mirrorless...not DSLR.
Except for Pentax...but that's a joke for another day.

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Apr 4, 2021 17:23:31   #
gwilliams6
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
You need to look at the advances of mirrorless cameras. Sony just released a camera that will do 30 frames per second. With the high MP and frame rate it's like pulling stills from a video. I do mostly wildlife. Personally I'm switching after I return from my 3 week photography vacation, never wise to take new equipment on vacation to learn.. Sony and mirrorless is the future, you can jump on board or not....I've waited to long myself..




Full disclosure, I have that 50mp Sony A1 with a fullframe stacked sensor which can do 30fps with no blackout at full AF-C (making 120 AE/AF calculations per second); an EVF with 9.44 million dot resolution and 240fps refresh rate; and no rolling shutter in electronic shooting. 1/500 sec flash synch speed, and the first camera to flash synch in electronic shooting also. Oh and it also records in 8k video. No DSLR on earth can do that, none.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-1

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Apr 4, 2021 17:32:43   #
guardineer
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
With the wrong camera, success is probably 99% luck. But with a mirrorless camera, it's 100% the photographer.


I gotta wonder how many are going to snap at that humorous bait.

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Apr 4, 2021 17:43:11   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
John Hicks wrote:
So all the great photographs taken with DSLR cameras are not as good as a photograph taken with a mirrorless camera , I am sorry I do not believe it .

To what/whom are you replying?

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Apr 4, 2021 17:48:25   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Longshadow wrote:
To what/whom are you replying?


Not me ... I believe that it is 100% the photographer who decides a mirrorless camera is the best.

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Apr 4, 2021 17:55:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Not me ... I believe that it is 100% the photography who decides a mirrorless camera is the best.

Whew!

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Apr 4, 2021 18:16:39   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
Yes. Mirrorless is a better camera to shoot landscapes with but the image quality will be the same. Seeing the image, histogram and zebras live in the EVF is the winning feature for me.

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Apr 4, 2021 18:24:50   #
gwilliams6
 
John Hicks wrote:
So all the great photographs taken with DSLR cameras are not as good as a photograph taken with a mirrorless camera , I am sorry I do not believe it .


You are missing the point here. NO one said any of that John. The discussion is about is mirrorless better than DSLR. Great photos are great photos whether made with a cellphone, view camera, film camera, or digital camera DLSR or mirrorless. I know, I have made great shots with all the above.

We can debate and compare photos in another discussion.

Cheers

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Apr 4, 2021 18:27:43   #
gwilliams6
 
Canisdirus wrote:
No one is saying that.
The facts are...DSLR's had their day... a very long day indeed.
But mirrorless has now surpassed them in many ways.
ALL of the R&D monies now go towards mirrorless...not DSLR.
Except for Pentax...but that's a joke for another day.



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Apr 4, 2021 18:27:46   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
gwilliams6 wrote:


Full disclosure, I have that 50mp Sony A1 with a fullframe stacked sensor which can do 30fps with no blackout at full AF-C (making 120 AE/AF calculations per second); an EVF with 9.44 million dot resolution and 240fps refresh rate; and no rolling shutter in electronic shooting. 1/500 sec flash synch speed, and the first camera to flash synch in electronic shooting also. Oh and it also records in 8k video. No DSLR on earth can do that, none.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-1
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With a DSLR when shooting BIF as they land in continuous mode you get the open wing, closed wing, open wing, closed wing sequence. With a mirrorless and 30 fps you can pick and choose the frame you want. Can't wait to get on the band wagon...

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Apr 4, 2021 18:35:28   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Just in case 8 pages isn't enough already, consider that the EOS R5 has brought Arthur Morris back to Canon, with his recent blog post:

Artie Returns to Canon Full-time with a Vengeance. His status as an Explorer of Light has been restored!

https://www.birdsasart-blog.com/2021/04/01/artie-returns-to-canon-full-time-with-a-vengeance-his-status-as-an-explorer-of-light-has-been-restored/


"Canon’s offer — a renewal of my Explorer of Light contract at $20,000 per annum along with a $50,000 war chest of the latest Canon mirrorless gear, was simply too much to resist." For 50,000 reasons, plus 20,000 more every year, I would drop my Sony gear as well.

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Apr 4, 2021 18:49:16   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
JohnR wrote:
Just a little food for thought

Looking completely dispassionately which is better photographically – for image quality?

First the significant differences (Comparing APS-C and full frame only):

DSLR bodies are bigger and heavier than mirrorless bodies.
DSLRs take many more photos per battery charge than mirrorless
DSLRs have mirrors :)
Mirrorless don’t have mirrors :) :)
Mmmm – can’t think of any other significant differences.

Second important similarities:

Both have sensors
Both have viewfinders
Both have LCDs
Both have lenses
Mmmm – can’t think of any other important similarities.

So how does any of this make a mirrorless better than a DSLR?? Well IMHO it doesn’t, it can’t and it won’t as far as image quality of photographs is concerned. Excluding the photographers skill levels and the many personal preferences involved, the image quality of a photograph is directly proportional to the quality of the lens and the sensor.
Mirrorless do not have better sensors than DSLRs. Mirrorless do not have better lenses than DSLRs. So photographs from mirrrorless cannot have better image quality than those from DSLRs.
Just a little food for thought br br Looking comp... (show quote)


Mirror-less have eye detect DSLR's don't, Mirror-less have superior native glass DSLR's don't, Mirror-less have EVF (better for night photography) DSLR's don't, etc etc etc.

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Apr 4, 2021 18:50:31   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
A good photograph has the most pixels.
A good photographer has a mirrorless camera.

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Apr 4, 2021 19:14:30   #
Bfree2 Loc: Grants Pass, Or
 
For me I walked into a camera store completely oblivious to mirrorless. Sure I’ve heard of them, but they were never on my radar. I walked in looking for a D7200, but they only had the 7500. First, a quick backup, I no longer had any camera or equipment as my faithful D200 and lenses was stolen. So there I was having to start from scratch. I had seen on display the Sony a6000 lineup, and scoffed. Now I was ready to walk out with the D7500, until the sales tech compared the features, and pointed out the features, and speed. Well I now have that APS-C a6000, plus an full frame a7III. Now I loved Nikon, and was fond of Cannon. But now I’m simply sold on my Sony mirrorless. Do I think it is better than the D7200 I wanted? Maybe, but only because of focus and fps. But the quality of my photos? Nope, as I always shoot RAW.
Now if I still had any of my old lenses, then on my shelf would be a D7200 & D750 instead.

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