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Mar 27, 2021 11:55:58   #
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joer wrote:
It depends on what you shoot and the lenses in question.

Ah ... the old UHH classIc strikes again. Why think when you can just ask the Magic 8-Ball to pop up a reply.

What toadall bull schidt !!!

Apparently you believe that if I use my SLR in live view mode instead of using its prism reflex finder, that this can affect the image quality ... depending on “what you shoot and the lenses in question”.

In grievous violation of UHH tradition, I’ve actually tested this. The presence or absence of the mirror has no effect. It’s almost as if the SLR mirror disappears, or somehow moves out of the image path, during the actual exposure.

It’s too hard to believe that the most important part of the SLR contributes nothing to actually making the image. There must be some other explanation for the identical results.

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Mar 27, 2021 15:31:58   #
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BobHartung wrote:
No degradation at all. The FTZ adapter is great and all my F mount lens work flawlessly. Put if you do change to a Z body keep your old lenses as the newer lenses don't play well with infraRed.

Great warning. Nobody shoots visible spectrum anymore anywho.

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Mar 27, 2021 15:38:17   #
Photoladybon Loc: Long Island
 
I’m actually glad to hear because I have been a lifetime Nikon user but looking to markedly reduce weight. A week or two ago I asked questions on the Olympus m43 and essentially received positive statements. I am quite torn between systems but the Olympus is markedly lighter and so far I am not unhappy with the images. Olympus is also well priced compared to other companies. I’m continuing to follow these discussions. They are very helpful. Thank you all.

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Mar 27, 2021 15:43:52   #
agacia
 
I have a z6. No z lenses and selling my full frame dslr. I invested in the 24-70 2.8 and the 70-200 2.8 f mount lenses. Got the adapter. I am thrilled with this camera. The lenses are a bit heavy. But they were so on the dslr too.

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Mar 27, 2021 17:07:42   #
RightOnPhotography Loc: Quebec,QC
 
Strodav wrote:

As others have mentioned, there is no degradation in IQ using a F mount lens on a Z body, but the newer Z glass is a step up in quality over the F mount glass.


I totally agree with this statement. I used my F lenses via FTZ on my Z50, Z7 and Z6 and previously same lenses on D750 and found no difference in IQ. However, I am gradually replacing my F lenses with Z lenses. I kept only 2 lenses that have no equivalent in Z mount yet - AF-P 70-300 and AF-P 10-20.

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Mar 27, 2021 18:04:40   #
shutterbob Loc: Tucson
 
I use a FTZ on both my z50 and z5. My F mount lenses all work just fine on the mirrorless bodies. As far a whether they enhance the quality.....no. But neither do they take anything away. They are just glassless adapters. The only downside for me is the added size and weight that they add.

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Mar 27, 2021 19:40:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
User ID wrote:
Ah ... the old UHH classIc strikes again. Why think when you can just ask the Magic 8-Ball to pop up a reply.

What toadall bull schidt !!!

Apparently you believe that if I use my SLR in live view mode instead of using its prism reflex finder, that this can affect the image quality ... depending on “what you shoot and the lenses in question”.

In grievous violation of UHH tradition, I’ve actually tested this. The presence or absence of the mirror has no effect. It’s almost as if the SLR mirror disappears, or somehow moves out of the image path, during the actual exposure.

It’s too hard to believe that the most important part of the SLR contributes nothing to actually making the image. There must be some other explanation for the identical results.
Ah ... the old UHH classIc strikes again. Why thin... (show quote)


On bodies with electronic shutter and IBIS, those old lenses and new bodies may well record better images than dSLR or SLR bodies do. The elimination of mirror slap and shutter shock and the steadier balance of IBIS often combine in the mirrorless user’s favor.

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Mar 27, 2021 19:44:11   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
Thank you Bill and all of you who responded to my original post. Frank

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Mar 28, 2021 05:21:35   #
rkaminer Loc: New York, NY
 
I purchased the Z6 two years ago because it had an adaptor to make it compatible with my old lenses. Never regretted the purchase; it gave me the ability to transition to a new system without going cold-turkey. I used the old F lenses for a while, and started to migrate to the new Z lenses, which I now use exclusively. For example, the Z 24-200 replaced my 70-200; although a bit slower it serves the purpose and has great optics, My shoulder also appreciates the change.

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Mar 28, 2021 06:18:44   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
oregonfrank wrote:
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank


I was wondering this myself so thanks for asking.

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Mar 29, 2021 02:06:12   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
oregonfrank wrote:
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank


The short answer is a resounding YES.

The long answer is that you lose no IQ whatsoever as there are no glass elements of any kind in the FTZ adaptor. Focusing speed across the entire range is slower but micro-adjustments at a relatively similar distance will be largely as fast - from any practical stand point.

The only real downside is if you have a lot of old style screw drive (D series and he like) as they will not auto focus using the FTZ adaptor as there is no motor in the adaptor. The newer G series and E series lenses work like a charm - in fact my 58mm 1.4G and 105mm 1.4E F mount lenses work better on the Z camera than they ever did on the DSLR as they now enjoy IBIS (3 axis, not 5 but any stabilization is better than none), and focusing points across the frame - not just clumped into the middle like on DSLR's. It has revitalized these lenses and I do not imagine I will get rid of them any time soon and perhaps keep them forever.

If the only thing holding you back from going to the Z system is your F mount lenses then be held back no longer. I switched to the Z system almost 2 years ago and have never looked back - I have now sold my last DSLR but still have F mount lenses that I use in conjunction with Z mount lenses.

There is a slight learning curve to the Z auto focus system but once mastered you will get more keepers than you ever did on your DSLR.

Hope this helps.
-B

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Mar 29, 2021 10:46:17   #
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burkphoto wrote:
On bodies with electronic shutter and IBIS, those old lenses and new bodies may well record better images than dSLR or SLR bodies do. The elimination of mirror slap and shutter shock and the steadier balance of IBIS often combine in the mirrorless user’s favor.

In images recorded at high pixel rez (50+) I’m lately experimenting with an SLR despite my great preference for LV.

At daylight shutter speeds, and using OIS lenses not longer than 300, I’ve encountered no losses to mirror slap or shutter shock. (There are no film-era lenses involved.) Forced down to lower shutter speeds in dimmer light, those problems you mentioned take their toll in conditions where Sonys and m4/3 reliably deliver a favorable hit ratio.

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Mar 29, 2021 19:49:20   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
baron_silverton wrote:
The short answer is a resounding YES.

The long answer is that you lose no IQ whatsoever as there are no glass elements of any kind in the FTZ adaptor. Focusing speed across the entire range is slower but micro-adjustments at a relatively similar distance will be largely as fast - from any practical stand point.

The only real downside is if you have a lot of old style screw drive (D series and he like) as they will not auto focus using the FTZ adaptor as there is no motor in the adaptor. The newer G series and E series lenses work like a charm - in fact my 58mm 1.4G and 105mm 1.4E F mount lenses work better on the Z camera than they ever did on the DSLR as they now enjoy IBIS (3 axis, not 5 but any stabilization is better than none), and focusing points across the frame - not just clumped into the middle like on DSLR's. It has revitalized these lenses and I do not imagine I will get rid of them any time soon and perhaps keep them forever.

If the only thing holding you back from going to the Z system is your F mount lenses then be held back no longer. I switched to the Z system almost 2 years ago and have never looked back - I have now sold my last DSLR but still have F mount lenses that I use in conjunction with Z mount lenses.

There is a slight learning curve to the Z auto focus system but once mastered you will get more keepers than you ever did on your DSLR.

Hope this helps.
-B
The short answer is a resounding YES. br br The l... (show quote)


Great response and well explained.

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Mar 29, 2021 20:16:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
User ID wrote:
In images recorded at high pixel rez (50+) I’m lately experimenting with an SLR despite my great preference for LV.

At daylight shutter speeds, and using OIS lenses not longer than 300, I’ve encountered no losses to mirror slap or shutter shock. (There are no film-era lenses involved.) Forced down to lower shutter speeds in dimmer light, those problems you mentioned take their toll in conditions where Sonys and m4/3 reliably deliver a favorable hit ratio.


Exactly... That’s my experience.

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