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Mar 26, 2021 02:35:45   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank

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Mar 26, 2021 05:30:21   #
MauiMoto Loc: Hawaii
 
I'm interested also. Considering a z7 instead of d850.

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Mar 26, 2021 05:33:19   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
oregonfrank wrote:
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank

I use F mount on my Z6ll with awesome results

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Mar 26, 2021 05:57:43   #
ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA
 
The FTZ adapter has no glass in it, so there is nothing to degrade IQ. AF-S and AF-P lenses work fine. The only penalty is the added 135g.

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Mar 26, 2021 10:03:30   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
I use a lot of older F mount lenses on my Z7. There is no image quality loss at all. I bought the Z7 with the 24-70mm f/2.8 zoom which is excellent and a delight to use. All of my F mount lenses are manual focus so I'm not losing any function using them on the Z7. Instead I gain the advantage of focus peaking which is a great enhancement.

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Mar 26, 2021 10:14:05   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
As one of the best wildlife / birding photographers out there, I follow Steve Perry at BackCountryGallery.com. This entire video on the Z6 and Z7 is worth watching, but what you are looking for is 14 minutes in. https://youtu.be/GUK0nNAfmyA . Here is a review of the Z IIs https://youtu.be/YqKaUjjaA70 . What you are looking for is 8:42 minutes in.

My takeaways are for slower AF lenses like the 200-500mm f/5.6 there is no difference between the Zs and the Ds AF, but for faster AF F mount lenses on Z bodies using the FTZ adapter, AF is noticeably slower. You can overcome some of this by prefocusing and since the Z AF system is more accurate compared to the Ds there is less hunting.

As others have mentioned, there is no degradation in IQ using a F mount lens on a Z body, but the newer Z glass is a step up in quality over the F mount glass.

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Mar 26, 2021 10:41:24   #
User ID
 
oregonfrank wrote:
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank

I have never found that circumventing the reflex mirror has diminished the image quality of any of my lenses, of many various types.

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Mar 26, 2021 12:10:39   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
oregonfrank wrote:
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank


It depends on what you shoot and the lenses in question.

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Mar 26, 2021 17:46:43   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
oregonfrank wrote:
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank


The optics wouldn't change, but keep in mind that any of the older autofocus lenses that use a motor in the camera will not autofocus with the adaptor.

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Mar 27, 2021 07:33:56   #
BurghByrd Loc: Pittsburgh
 
ClarkJohnson wrote:
The FTZ adapter has no glass in it, so there is nothing to degrade IQ. AF-S and AF-P lenses work fine. The only penalty is the added 135g.


Exactly! I've had no issues with any of the F mount lenses used on the FTZ w Z6II. It is particularly useful for unique F mount lenses such as PC lenses (tilt-shift) where there is no Z mount option. Recognize however that any lens reliant on a camera body motor to focus will not be able to do so. As CarkJohnson alludes, the FTZ adaptor establishes the F mount lens to body geometry with all electical connections on a Z body; the only thing missing is the autofocus screw drive.

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Mar 27, 2021 09:42:38   #
ELNikkor
 
"same" quality has been established. OregonFrank is also asking about "or better" quality. (ie, is there something about the Z sensors/processing/focusing/stabilizing that could possibly give him even better results with his "F" lenses than a DSLR could render?) "ysarex" says the focus peaking is helpful. I would guess the IBIS is also helpful. "MauiMoto" is debating between the Z's and the D850.
I'm no where near considering these delicate balancings, but if I was, I'd figure this: soon, Nikon will bring out more glass and a pro mirrorless body, as well as tweaking its autofocus features. The Z lenses are already better and engineered more specifically for the Z system. If someone wants to basically stay in the best that the past technology had to offer, let them stay back there with the D850 & F lenses; none of them are slouches and will never be obsoleted to the point of worthlessness as photographic tools.
Those with the resources and are looking to the future of imaging technology will hold out a bit longer, then sell the past and buy the future.

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Mar 27, 2021 10:08:11   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
ClarkJohnson wrote:
The FTZ adapter has no glass in it, so there is nothing to degrade IQ. AF-S and AF-P lenses work fine. The only penalty is the added 135g.


Plus fussing with the FTZ. I bought a second from MPB and also a $15 mechanical one, so dramatically reduced my fussing. I could leave one on Z6 and one on Z50...but more frequently use my new Z lenses.

The mechanical only one works surprisingly good if you are happy with min fstop for the lens, which I use for wildlife on 200-500. M mode and auto ISO handle auto exposure and focus peaking makes manual focus easy. You might even be able to vary fstop with AF lens with fstop ring aided by EVF to have bright image. I don’t presently have AF lenses, though.

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Mar 27, 2021 10:30:22   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
oregonfrank wrote:
For those who have adapted Nikon F mount lenses to a Z body, do you get the same or better quality images as before with F cameras? I ask this because I would only consider a Z body if I could use my existing F mount lenses with the same or better outcomes. Frank


No degradation at all. The FTZ adapter is great and all my F mount lens work flawlessly. Put if you do change to a Z body keep your old lenses as the newer lenses don't play well with infraRed.

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Mar 27, 2021 11:14:18   #
Photojoe1
 
I use my F lenses on Z7. The quality is fine, but with the adapter it is heavy and uncomfortable. The 24-120 lens is almost impossible to use handheld.
Sorry I got the Z. The lenses for them are untouchable for a non-professional.

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Mar 27, 2021 11:37:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Strodav wrote:
As one of the best wildlife / birding photographers out there, I follow Steve Perry at BackCountryGallery.com. This entire video on the Z6 and Z7 is worth watching, but what you are looking for is 14 minutes in. https://youtu.be/GUK0nNAfmyA . Here is a review of the Z IIs https://youtu.be/YqKaUjjaA70 . What you are looking for is 8:42 minutes in.

My takeaways are for slower AF lenses like the 200-500mm f/5.6 there is no difference between the Zs and the Ds AF, but for faster AF F mount lenses on Z bodies using the FTZ adapter, AF is noticeably slower. You can overcome some of this by prefocusing and since the Z AF system is more accurate compared to the Ds there is less hunting.

As others have mentioned, there is no degradation in IQ using a F mount lens on a Z body, but the newer Z glass is a step up in quality over the F mount glass.
As one of the best wildlife / birding photographer... (show quote)



A good honest post.

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