The Bible Says...
Mar 4, 2021 15:05:01 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
redlegfrog wrote:
Look at it from a different angle. We don't promote theft, adultery, alcoholism, and really most other sins, but we do promote homosexuality. Why?
Who is promoting homosexuality? Asking to not be discriminated against isn't promoting.
Mar 4, 2021 15:11:27 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
InfiniteISO wrote:
I don't know if I agree with you here, but if the ... (show quote)
Can't really discern whether or not you are claiming it is genetic.
Mar 4, 2021 15:16:59 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
redlegfrog wrote:
Its not good to make excuses for homosexuals anymore that it is for other sins. Do you have a kid who struggles with being a thief? how about a really hot temper? or lying? They were born with this attribute, would you make excuses for them or would you help them fight the urge to sin and help them grow up?
Sin is sin, we all wrestle with something. Not all wrestle against the same thing but we all have something we fight against.
Sin is sin, we all wrestle with something. Not all wrestle against the same thing but we all have something we fight against.
Why can't you practice your religion and leave other people alone? You are the first I've ever heard claim that people are born thieves, liars, and generally disagreeable persons. I don't suppose you have any science to back that up?
Mar 4, 2021 15:20:36 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
Rose42 wrote:
He spoke of the consequences of unbelief. Very strongly. His message was offensive to many and thats why they killed him. His message still offends many for people don’t want to submit.
Secular scholars have many theories.
It is man’s nature to look for the easier path. Thats not to say the Westboro Baptist church types are right - they’re not. Everyonenis tempted by different things. Not allbyield to them.
Secular scholars have many theories.
It is man’s nature to look for the easier path. Thats not to say the Westboro Baptist church types are right - they’re not. Everyonenis tempted by different things. Not allbyield to them.
He was killed because he was seen as a threat to the powers of the time.
Mar 4, 2021 15:22:02 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
Rose42 wrote:
Says Mr. Nasty himself. Oh the irony. LOL
When you come out of denial, we can discuss whatever you wish.
Mar 4, 2021 15:36:33 #
thom w wrote:
Can't really discern whether or not you are claiming it is genetic.
I think it is, but I'm not confident about it. I remember a study years ago comparing hypothalamus development in Hetero vs Homosexual males. It was during the AIDS explosion. This might be a simlar article.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1887219/
All that I surely know, is that the sexual orientation of a person is one of their least important attributes and there are no wrong answers. I was born male, white and hetero and brought up in the United States in a loving two-parent household. In other words, I won life's lottery. That said, it is not my fault that I pulled a straight flush nor is it my children's fault that they are white, well-educated, and much loved.
Mar 4, 2021 15:44:57 #
thom w wrote:
When you come out of denial, we can discuss whatever you wish.
I’m not the one in denial.
Mar 4, 2021 16:34:21 #
Rose42 wrote:
Yep. The bible is best left out of politics.
So is the agenda of the left.
Mar 4, 2021 16:40:06 #
smf85
Loc: Freeport, IL
thom w wrote:
He was killed because he was seen as a threat to the powers of the time.
He was. Consider the following - in Hebrew/Aramaic his name translates to The Shield or He or Shields. The same as the previous Moses; so He claimed that mantle. Consider the Beatitudes - their translated as blessed but that's not quite right, better would be
Bowed to are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Bowed to are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Bowed to are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth [all of it]
Bowed to are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God.
Bowed to are they that have been persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Just a little bit different. Much more Old Testament in flavor. As in Judgement will be handed out and you're on the wrong end of it.
This assumes a straight translation from the Greek back to the Aramaic/Hebrew that they were most likely originally spoken in. Translated into English.
Mar 4, 2021 16:53:50 #
thom w wrote:
https://jewishjournal.com/culture/arts/8282/
More power to her. Religion is not necessarily the answer.. Jesus is however.
Mar 4, 2021 17:12:14 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
idaholover wrote:
More power to her. Religion is not necessarily the answer.. Jesus is however.
Be sure and tell that to all your Jewish friends.
Mar 4, 2021 17:22:04 #
Rose42 wrote:
There is much more in there about eternal life such as “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it”
There are numerous warnings about false teachers in the NT. Jesus spoke of eternal punishment far more than he did of heaven.
There are numerous warnings about false teachers in the NT. Jesus spoke of eternal punishment far more than he did of heaven.
That’s right sister.
Mar 4, 2021 17:34:18 #
mwalsh wrote:
I am not a literalist...the Bible is not the divin... (show quote)
Then there in lies the problem you don’t believe the Bible is the infallible word of God.
You pick and choose what you want to believe.
You want to do whatever you like, and if that were the case why would Jesus say this
John 3:3, and Paul references it in 2Corinthians 5:17. If we are born again we will want to please God.
We will not want to do the crap we use to do. We must submit give ourselves over to Christ and let
the Holy Spirit of God work within us to change us.
John 3:3
New King James Version
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
2 Corinthians 5:17
New King James Version
17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Mar 4, 2021 17:37:40 #
thom w wrote:
Be sure and tell that to all your Jewish friends.
I do. They’re way cooler than you are.
Mar 4, 2021 17:40:23 #
soba1 wrote:
Then there in lies the problem you don’t believe t... (show quote)
It sounds like you judge your belief system to be superior...what would Jesus think of that?
I don't think I have put you down or judged you negatively because you believe the Word is God's literal words...
I don't view your perspective as flawed or a problem...Jesus preached love of everyone...not just the like minded.
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