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Mar 4, 2021 07:42:24   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
boberic wrote:
Heres proof that they work toether


(Download)

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Mar 4, 2021 07:51:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
mwsilvers wrote:
You aren't using the edges of a full frame lens when its mounted on a crop body like the 80D due to the camera's smaller sensor. However, there is no reason why you shouldn't use one on your camera. I have several full frame lenses that I use regularly on my Canon 7D Mark II. I wouldn't be surprised if the "person at the camera shop" this random photographer was referring to was a clueless salesperson at a Best Buy. Either that, or the person you spoke to just misunderstood what he was told.
You aren't using the edges of a full frame lens wh... (show quote)

Yup.

(re: the edges - synonymous with using a <crop factor> telephoto.)
I'd use the lens(es) if they mount.

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Mar 4, 2021 08:09:35   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Mr.Ft wrote:
Is there any truth to this??
Thanks
Tom


NO .......more fake news

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Mar 4, 2021 08:23:10   #
tdozier3 Loc: Northern Illinois
 
Mr.Ft wrote:
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 11 lens yesterday, and was approached by another photographer. He asked me why I was using EF lens on a crop sensor camera instead of EF-s lens. I told him I usually use my 5D M4 but that was setup for another project now. He said you shouldn't use that lens on that camera, but couldn't explain why, he just the person at the camera shop told him that. I've never herd that before and my pic's come out awesome " IMO " with that combo. Has anyone else been told this??? Is there any truth to this??
Thanks
Tom
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 ... (show quote)
My D7500 works quite well with my Sigma 150-600 Contemporary DG and my 50 1.8 AFS, both FX lenses

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Mar 4, 2021 08:40:44   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
When I purchased my first Canon 7D I started on UHH and realized that I would eventually upgrade my camera so I heeded the advice, buy good glass! I have only purchased EF lenses for the 7D. Several years later I upgraded to Canon 5D3 and all my glass worked perfectly; and still does on the 5D4.

On a crop sensor you are only using the cernter of any apeture on an EF lens, the best part of the optics. Keep doing what you are doing, it makes perfect sense.

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Mar 4, 2021 08:43:45   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
bleirer wrote:
This is the video in question. Without personal attacks on the producer, can anyone tell why he is right or wrong?
https://youtu.be/S8-vfiq33R4


In the past, most crop frame sensors had a greater pixel density (smaller pixel pitch) which results in a greater ability to show lens faults. This is because it is easier/cheaper to make high densities on a smaller sensor ! So, on full frame with less pixel density, these resolution faults become "hidden" - if you will - or less well perceived ( depending on the exact resolution of the lens) . This is why FF is perceived to be sharper - generally speaking. A lot of generalities here. Today, FF pixel densities CAN equal or surpass some/most crop sensors ! Manufacturing costs have come down and the willingness of people to pay higher prices has gone up !
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Mar 4, 2021 08:57:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
imagemeister wrote:
NO .......more fake news



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Mar 4, 2021 09:03:10   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
nervous2 wrote:
When they ask "getting anything good?" answer yes and that you just sold two for publication last week at $1000 per.


Yeah, I'm not that interested in prolonging the conversation...LOL

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Mar 4, 2021 09:10:11   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
imagemeister wrote:
In the past, most crop frame sensors had a greater pixel density (smaller pixel pitch) which results in a greater ability to show lens faults. This is because it is easier/cheaper to make high densities on a smaller sensor ! So, on full frame with less pixel density, these resolution faults become "hidden" - if you will - or less well perceived ( depending on the exact resolution of the lens) . This is why FF is perceived to be sharper - generally speaking. A lot of generalities here. Today, FF pixel densities CAN equal or surpass some/most crop sensors ! Manufacturing costs have come down and the willingness of people to pay higher prices has gone up !
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In the past, most crop frame sensors had a greater... (show quote)


And, I think you will agree, that nothing coming out of an enlarging process - digital or analog, can compare with the detail, clarity and depth of an un-magnified contact print from an 8x10 or 11x14 negative. The the two crop cameras with high pixel densities - 32mp Canon 90D (9.81 MP/cm²) and the 28mp Samsung NX1 - (7.66 MP/cm²) have really high pixel densities - but the full frame resolution champ, the 61 mp Sony a7R IV (7.18 MP/cm²) comes pretty close to the Samsung.

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Mar 4, 2021 10:06:37   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Mr.Ft wrote:
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 11 lens yesterday, and was approached by another photographer. He asked me why I was using EF lens on a crop sensor camera instead of EF-s lens. I told him I usually use my 5D M4 but that was setup for another project now. He said you shouldn't use that lens on that camera, but couldn't explain why, he just the person at the camera shop told him that. I've never herd that before and my pic's come out awesome " IMO " with that combo. Has anyone else been told this??? Is there any truth to this??
Thanks
Tom
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 ... (show quote)

Not true. I’ve used an EF lens with my 60D for years and sold some pictures using a 100-400 with that camera that were tack sharp.

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Mar 4, 2021 10:20:03   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Mr.Ft wrote:
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 11 lens yesterday, and was approached by another photographer. He asked me why I was using EF lens on a crop sensor camera instead of EF-s lens. I told him I usually use my 5D M4 but that was setup for another project now. He said you shouldn't use that lens on that camera, but couldn't explain why, he just the person at the camera shop told him that. I've never herd that before and my pic's come out awesome " IMO " with that combo. Has anyone else been told this??? Is there any truth to this??
Thanks
Tom
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 ... (show quote)


Inaccurate and all very silly.

Cheers!

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Mar 4, 2021 10:26:47   #
photoman43
 
quixdraw wrote:
I habitually shoot FX lenses on my DX cameras - results are better than with most DX lenses I've used.


This is what I do too. If you have both full frame and crop bodies, just buy the lens for the full frame and use it on the crop and full frame body. Or just buy a full frame lens and skip the crop sensor lenses if you have the $$$. One exception is when weight and size (for travel) reqquires the smallest lightest system.

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Mar 4, 2021 10:32:43   #
bleirer
 
There was an interesting topic here recently on dynamic range in which Bill Claff of photonstophotos.net participated. One of my takeaways from his comments was that you have to normalize for image size and viewing distance before you can really compare two systems. This holds true for dynamic range, depth of field, sharpness, noise, you name it. This makes it very hard to make blanket judgements across systems. But it does seem as a general rule that after normalizing if the sensor area is a little smaller then the lens must resolve a little better in the exposed part of the image circle to get equivalent results. Little being the keyword here. Still I'm sure the EF100-400ii is plenty up to the task, and there aren't any ef-s alternatives anyway.

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Mar 4, 2021 10:36:34   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Mr.Ft wrote:
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 11 lens yesterday, and was approached by another photographer. He asked me why I was using EF lens on a crop sensor camera instead of EF-s lens. I told him I usually use my 5D M4 but that was setup for another project now. He said you shouldn't use that lens on that camera, but couldn't explain why, he just the person at the camera shop told him that. I've never herd that before and my pic's come out awesome " IMO " with that combo. Has anyone else been told this??? Is there any truth to this??
Thanks
Tom
Hi, I was out shooting with my 80D and EF 100-400 ... (show quote)



He was miss informed. The difference is, the ff glass has a bigger circle, and your crop sensor will only see a part of (crops) what the glass sends to it. Looking through your view finder, you will still see what the sensor sees.

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Mar 4, 2021 10:37:48   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
A full frame lens works on both. I recommend to people that if you do not have a full frame camera that they DO buy a full frame lens and NOT buy a (S) non full frame lens as when you grow and buy a full frame camera you will not have to replace your lenses.

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