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Feb 24, 2021 22:04:22   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
cw5keeler wrote:
(The 6dii is on the list as supported by Photoshop elements 2021. So that should work. Also a link to the dng converter if you want to use the old Photoshop. As mentioned the free dpp4 can be downloaded at your camera support page and then you can send it to Photoshop from there.)

I saw that too. It seems odd to me that CR2/raw files from my 60D can be opened and worked on in PSE14, but CR2/raw files from the (supposedly supported) 6DII cannot. Seems like adobe has some 'splainin' to do.
(The 6dii is on the list as supported by Photoshop... (show quote)


No. You have to develop a deeper understanding of RAW. Every camera model creates a unique RAW file. Each camera manufacturer has 'grabbed' their unique file extension for their brand's RAW. But, just because different camera models have the same extension, that does not mean their contents are the same.

As said above, the PSE-14 was dropped from support by Adobe in the past, specifically Dec-2015. No RAW files for cameras released after Dec-2015 will ever be supported by PSE-14. When software is dropped from support, it doesn't not receive ongoing updates for new camera releases. Rather, support those new cameras are added only to the current supported versions.

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Feb 24, 2021 22:21:21   #
cw5keeler Loc: Michigan
 
Then why is the 6DII listed as a supported model when I click the link adobe tells me to click in PSE14?

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Feb 24, 2021 22:40:06   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
cw5keeler wrote:
Then why is the 6DII listed as a supported model when I click the link adobe tells me to click in PSE14?


Looking online, I'm tempted to say the RAW files from EOS 6DII should be supported. The minimum Camera RAW plug-in is v9.12. Support for the EOS 6DII was published by Adobe in Dec 2015. You can get your installed version from the PSE Help Menu and 'about plug in' Camera RAW. That's the first thing to confirm.

If we assume your ACR doesn't report 9.12, the next problem is finding where you can download that ACR version. This link gives you installers back to v10.5:

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html

You can't 'force' a new ACR into an older PSE version. You might try a technical support chat with Adobe and see if they'll give you a link to download the older v9.12 version, if that seems to be the cause of your issue.

If you need a download faster than an Adobe chat, try the downloads from this site:

https://www.megaleechers.com/2020/06/adobe-camera-raw.html

My Norton software said the download ZIP and the enclosed install EXE is 'clean', but I don't have a PSE-14 install to verify if this is a quick and free solution.

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Feb 26, 2021 16:26:35   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Ichy wrote:
Bought 6DII. Also have 5D and 70D. I only shoot RAW. Have no problem opening RAW/CR2 in CS6 & PSE's with 5D & 70D, but cannot open 6DII to open in any program. Checked with Adobe about problem or updates for CS6; after a couple of hours chatting, they said I had a "pirated" CS6 disc (bought used on ebay). Bought PSE2021 thinking that would solve my problem. No such luck. I have tried all I know. Figured this group would have an answer. If not, going from Budweiser to hard whiskey!
Bought 6DII. Also have 5D and 70D. I only shoot R... (show quote)


You will never be able to directly open 6DII RAW files (even though they are CR2) in PS CS6. This is because you need Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) 9.12 or later to handle the 6DII's files.

Unfortunately, the very last version of ACR that works in PS CS6 is 9.1.1. So there's simply no way to update CS6 sufficiently to work directly with the 6DII's RAW files.

HOWEVER.... PSE 2021 definitely should be able to work with those 6DII files. It's the latest version of that software, released less than 6 months ago, and has a much later version of ACR built in. I checked and Adobe shows it fully compatible with 6DII. If you can't get it to work, maybe you should ask Adobe to give you your money back!

If you do get Elements 2021 to work with the files, there may be another solution. However, one of the reasons to shoot RAW in the first place is to be able to import and work on 16-bit files. Elements is limited in how much work can be done on 16-bit files. (In fact, Elements wants to default to opening 8-bit files in the RAW converter... you have to check 16-bit to have it make those instead.) So, beyond doing the initial RAW conversion with it, you may not want to do further image editing with Elements 2021 (since you'll have to "downgrade" to 8-bit images to make full use on it).

What you might try instead - if you can get Elements 2021 to recognize the 6DII files - is use that to simply make and save a 16-bit TIFF... which you then transfer to or open to work on in PS CS6. In other words, all you are doing with Elements 2021 is the basic RAW conversion into a 16-bit TIFF.... Then the actual editing and finishing of the image would then be done in CS6, which has quite a bit more capabilities than Elements in dealing with 16-bit files. If preferred, it might also be possible to save a 16-bit PSD file from Elements. I really don't know. Try it and see. That also should be workable in CS6 (though it may be necessary to set some sort of backward compatibility).

As already mentioned in previous responses, another solution if you want to continue to work with PS CS6 is to download and use the free Adobe DNG Converter. That will convert your CR2 files into DNGs (Adobe's "universal raw" file type), which you then can work in CS6. (Note: I recommend you keep the original CR2 files too. There may be a time in the future when you need them, such as working with programs other than Adobe's.)

Finally, depending upon your computer's operating system there may be some limitations on CS6, Elements 2021 and even on Adobe Raw Converter. For example, I know 64-bit Windows 7 and later is needed for full functionality of CS6. There are probably some similar limitations with Mac OS versions, though I'm not as familiar with those.

EDIT: Do you have Lightroom 6? The later versions of that also support 6DII. The final version 6.14 includes ACR 10.1, which is able to handle a lot more Canon DSLRs (and M series mirrorless) than the final version of PS CS6. For example, among the full frame DSLRs all but the very latest 1DXIII are fully supported by LR6 (6.14). Neat thing about LR6 is that it does exactly the same thing as ACR in PS (it just looks different... many think it's easier)... Plus there's a1-click method of "sending" images to PS CS6 for further work (simply right click on the image in LR6 and a little menu pops up that includes an "Edit in" option, one of which can be PS CS6).

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Feb 27, 2021 09:42:21   #
Ichy
 
I've downloaded the DNG converter. Seems to be working. I do like Plogger's principle of a separate 6DII folder. Also like amfoto1 idea of TIFF-never even thought of that. Like everything in life, need to keep trying/practicing (I'm not one to give up). Thanks everyone for the support and time to respond. UHH is a great support/answer group. PS-I was wrong about PSE2021 not working.

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Feb 27, 2021 10:26:16   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
Ichy wrote:
I've downloaded the DNG converter. Seems to be working. I do like Plogger's principle of a separate 6DII folder. Also like amfoto1 idea of TIFF-never even thought of that. Like everything in life, need to keep trying/practicing (I'm not one to give up). Thanks everyone for the support and time to respond. UHH is a great support/answer group. PS-I was wrong about PSE2021 not working.



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Feb 27, 2021 10:43:54   #
bleirer
 
amfoto1 wrote:
You will never be able to directly open 6DII RAW files (even though they are CR2) in PS CS6. This is because you need Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) 9.12 or later to handle the 6DII's files.

Unfortunately, the very last version of ACR that works in PS CS6 is 9.1.1. So there's simply no way to update CS6 sufficiently to work directly with the 6DII's RAW files.

HOWEVER.... PSE 2021 definitely should be able to work with those 6DII files. It's the latest version of that software, released less than 6 months ago, and has a much later version of ACR built in. I checked and Adobe shows it fully compatible with 6DII. If you can't get it to work, maybe you should ask Adobe to give you your money back!

If you do get Elements 2021 to work with the files, there may be another solution. However, one of the reasons to shoot RAW in the first place is to be able to import and work on 16-bit files. Elements is limited in how much work can be done on 16-bit files. (In fact, Elements wants to default to opening 8-bit files in the RAW converter... you have to check 16-bit to have it make those instead.) So, beyond doing the initial RAW conversion with it, you may not want to do further image editing with Elements 2021 (since you'll have to "downgrade" to 8-bit images to make full use on it).

What you might try instead - if you can get Elements 2021 to recognize the 6DII files - is use that to simply make and save a 16-bit TIFF... which you then transfer to or open to work on in PS CS6. In other words, all you are doing with Elements 2021 is the basic RAW conversion into a 16-bit TIFF.... Then the actual editing and finishing of the image would then be done in CS6, which has quite a bit more capabilities than Elements in dealing with 16-bit files. If preferred, it might also be possible to save a 16-bit PSD file from Elements. I really don't know. Try it and see. That also should be workable in CS6 (though it may be necessary to set some sort of backward compatibility).

As already mentioned in previous responses, another solution if you want to continue to work with PS CS6 is to download and use the free Adobe DNG Converter. That will convert your CR2 files into DNGs (Adobe's "universal raw" file type), which you then can work in CS6. (Note: I recommend you keep the original CR2 files too. There may be a time in the future when you need them, such as working with programs other than Adobe's.)

Finally, depending upon your computer's operating system there may be some limitations on CS6, Elements 2021 and even on Adobe Raw Converter. For example, I know 64-bit Windows 7 and later is needed for full functionality of CS6. There are probably some similar limitations with Mac OS versions, though I'm not as familiar with those.

EDIT: Do you have Lightroom 6? The later versions of that also support 6DII. The final version 6.14 includes ACR 10.1, which is able to handle a lot more Canon DSLRs (and M series mirrorless) than the final version of PS CS6. For example, among the full frame DSLRs all but the very latest 1DXIII are fully supported by LR6 (6.14). Neat thing about LR6 is that it does exactly the same thing as ACR in PS (it just looks different... many think it's easier)... Plus there's a1-click method of "sending" images to PS CS6 for further work (simply right click on the image in LR6 and a little menu pops up that includes an "Edit in" option, one of which can be PS CS6).
You will never be able to directly open 6DII RAW f... (show quote)

Are you sure about Elements saving a 16 bit tiff. I though Elements was reduced to working in 8 bit at some point in the process?

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